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    Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Hi folks,
    I need to know if the Hollander 4566 will directly replace my 4564's on my 2002 STS.

    The 4566's are off a Olds Aurora but look identical.

    Do they have the same Offset? center bore?

    I have the Hollander wheel manual but it does not show specific dimensions.
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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Darn good question........The 4566 also lists as an '03 CTS option. I'm looking at a set of '66's to back up my '02 Seville 17's. I intend to ask my dealer parts people to run a part number comparison. If the 2 examples of 17x7.5 wheels aren't extremely close or identical, I'd be surprised. PM me next Monday or Tuesday.....I'm out at sea right now........inport Thursday eve......

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    The wheels are the same, dimensionally. The STS wheels are chrome plated with matte silver openings. The 4566 units are polished or machine finished and clearcoated overall. Be VERY careful of comparisons from online pix. Caveat Emptor. (Your pic is, in fact, an STS wheel. The 4566 has a somewhat softer, overall silvery matte finish.)

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    I have 03 chrome 17" wheels for sale if anyone is interested. They are in mint condition. I got the car with less than 17K so you can imagine what these wheels look like. W/STS cneter caps and lug nusts.
    4 for $800 with tires if you want, about 10K miles left on them. Believe me thay are mint. cad03sts@mac.com Thanks

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Do you still have 4564 rims for sale? Thanks, Tony

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Not sure on the dimensions, etc.. However I have a set of these 7-spoke polished 17s on my Olds and they came from a CTS, they appear to have a fairly high offset. Does any one know the offset (or backspacing) on the STS 17" wheels? I have seen some on an Aurora (they were only on the Final 500) and they don't appear to have any coating over them.

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    This group of wheels uses a 115mm 5-bolt circle, has a 40mm ? offset, indexes on the center bore, (not the bolt circle), and has a nominal rim width spec of 7.5" The satin finish clearcoated 2003 CTS 17" wheel is identical to the 17" Seville STS wheels except for the chrome with no clearcoat.

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Thanks for that info. I always wondered if the offset was different between the STS / Aurora and CTS wheels.

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Here's the 2003 CTS 17" satin finish/clearcoat with ID numbers.

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Those are exactly what I have on my olds. So the offset is 51mm on them? Or is the 51 something else?

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    I think the 51 is some sort of casting code........the wheels have the same offset as the Seville series: ? 40mm.

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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    so after looking into this a little bit here's what i've found
    (and i'm talking about the ebay auction... if there were any pics in any other posts I don't see them)

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    the casting number that would mean anything to me is the longer number - 9594179

    that would normally be the GM part number (and it sure does look like one) but it does not match any current or discontinued GM part number
    we also have a 'casting conversion' that can take numbers like this that are stamped onto parts and convert them to the 'proper' part number
    no luck with that either

    i have no clue what the '51' means ... i would think offset maybe but i'm not sure

    also, i have not looked up the hollander listings (we never deal with hollander numbers)

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    one thing that does stick out like a sore thumb to me is the center cap
    it is definitely a knock-off aftermarket center cap
    that (along with the fact that the number stamped into it does not come up valid) all leads me to believe that this wheel is a total aftermarket unit produced to look like the cadillac wheels in question

    their fitment chart says that they will fit so i would assume that they would and if not they should take them back
    (maybe do a little email conversation to 'get it in writing' before you purchase)
    and another thought: it's not easy to screw people over on ebay and keep a 99.5% feedback satisfaction rating over 12 months on ebay

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    if i had to guess i'd say if you like the wheels and they're the right price
    AND you can get real center caps then go for it
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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    These guys have been gone for 4 years, Chris.

    You got me to thinkin' - Doing some research turns up conflicting offsets for these wheels. Some (me included) say it's ~40 mm while others say it's ~50 mm. Any ideas ??? What do your GM books show - if at all ?

    The STS #4564 chromed wheel (17")(#09593846) and the '03+ CTS 17" polished/clearcoat wheel #4566 (#09594179)(nothing turns up on a Google search for this wheel) are identical in size - the only difference is finish.

    I put the CTS wheels on the STS each November - with luggy "all season" tires fitted now - no problems - and the STS center caps fit either wheel perfectly as do the CTS caps that came with the CTS wheels.

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    The parts catalog has no offset info on these wheels. I think only the 2nd gen ctsv wheels are the only ones I can recall having offset info in the parts catalog.

    I would think that aftermarket wheel companies would have this info listed for the wheels they sell for these cars.

    And actually someone PMd me the link over the weekend. So I figured I'd give the info out in the open.
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    Re: Replacing STS rims 4564 with 4566

    Hi Sub & Chris,
    I am the reason why this old thread has been resurrected

    Anyway, I've been looking and calling everywhere trying to figure out what the correct off-set is for Hollander 4564, but have yet to find definitive proof.

    I recently requested a close up picture of a Buick Lucerne / Cadillac DTS wheel. I believe this is Hollander 4074 (MPN# 17800381)

    https://detroitwheelandtire.com/cadi...2010-2011.html

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUICK-CADILL...05%26rk%3D1%26

    If you look at the format of the wheel size casting on this Lucerne/DTS wheel, it is very similar to the picture Sub posted of the STS wheel, but it has "mm" listed after the 51. To me, this makes it more likely the 51 is the offset in millimetres. Thoughts?

    I would be thrilled if my STS has a 51mm offset because that means I have several options when purchasing new wheels for my 2002.

    Thank you and sorry for digging up old posts!

    Buick Lucerne Cadillac DTS Wheel.JPG

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