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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Good to know. I guess its best to take some measurements before and after to assure proper alignment. Nothing on the toe rods are being touched so if it is in any different position you will know.


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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Still waiting for the e-mail.

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

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    Still waiting for the e-mail.
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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Payment sent...Thanks
    So how many sets remain after mine ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmargo View Post
    Payment sent...Thanks
    So how many sets remain after mine ?
    Got it. They're going out on Monday

    I think 2 or 3 sets are left...He made as many as he could with the material

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    This does more than take out wheel-hop. Perhaps it is because I drove it harder than usual but would this make it more tail-happy? Less stable with throttle lift around high speed turns?

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Quote Originally Posted by philistine View Post
    This does more than take out wheel-hop. Perhaps it is because I drove it harder than usual but would this make it more tail-happy? Less stable with throttle lift around high speed turns?
    Its possible, depending on the setup but keep in mind a throttle lift at mid-corner will create instability even in a spec miata. You are transferring weight from the rear of the car to the front of the car. That in turn adds grip to the front tires thus causing oversteer...hope that makes sense

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    So, for those of you with the bushings, how's the ride? How does it drive now?

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Junior1 View Post
    Its possible, depending on the setup but keep in mind a throttle lift at mid-corner will create instability even in a spec miata. You are transferring weight from the rear of the car to the front of the car. That in turn adds grip to the front tires thus causing oversteer...hope that makes sense
    Junior, I'm just guessing here, but on cars with firmer suspesion, they don't telegraph as much before you lose grip. With wobblier suspension bits, you will get body roll and other feedback that will tell you "holy shit" before the back walks out. I would imagine with the firmer bushings, you wouldn't be getting as much of that shimmy/wobble that would ordinarily be in indication to back off the throttle. Perhaps this in part is what happened to philistine.

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    Junior, I'm just guessing here, but on cars with firmer suspesion, they don't telegraph as much before you lose grip. With wobblier suspension bits, you will get body roll and other feedback that will tell you "holy shit" before the back walks out. I would imagine with the firmer bushings, you wouldn't be getting as much of that shimmy/wobble that would ordinarily be in indication to back off the throttle. Perhaps this in part is what happened to philistine.
    Sure hamstar without a doubt its going to change that feel and probably faster too. Not as drastic of a change as say a swaybar or something.
    In my case that allowed me to drive harder as I had better feedback which I think may have been the case with philistine. He was just able to reach that limit alot faster now. As he said he was driving harder than normal. Couple it with the throttle lift at that point and it may have upset the whole car...

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    Junior, I'm just guessing here, but on cars with firmer suspesion, they don't telegraph as much before you lose grip. With wobblier suspension bits, you will get body roll and other feedback that will tell you "holy shit" before the back walks out. I would imagine with the firmer bushings, you wouldn't be getting as much of that shimmy/wobble that would ordinarily be in indication to back off the throttle. Perhaps this in part is what happened to philistine.
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. I've been driving it differently trying to get used to it. The rear doesn't communicate like it used to therefore my T/C comes on a lot more. As for the throttle lift at mid turn...im usually conservative but this is the first the tail snapped on me - I can't hear/feel the rear anymore - it will take some getting used to.

    Sure hamstar without a doubt its going to change that feel and probably faster too. Not as drastic of a change as say a swaybar or something.
    In my case that allowed me to drive harder as I had better feedback which I think may have been the case with philistine. He was just able to reach that limit alot faster now. As he said he was driving harder than normal. Couple it with the throttle lift at that point and it may have upset the whole car..
    Not sure about the feedback but I am a amateur. You are right, I am reaching the limit a lot faster now and definitely driving it harder than normal. I really have to get used to the rear. This reminds me a lot of driving my S2k, the rear-end feels the same - just wasn't expecting it from the caddy.

    Just a FYI...this is not from street driving.
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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Revshift just came out with some today...
    https://www.revshift.com/shop/rear-c...llac-cts-v.php

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Quote Originally Posted by philistine View Post
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. I've been driving it differently trying to get used to it. The rear doesn't communicate like it used to therefore my T/C comes on a lot more. As for the throttle lift at mid turn...im usually conservative but this is the first the tail snapped on me - I can't hear/feel the rear anymore - it will take some getting used to.


    Not sure about the feedback but I am a amateur. You are right, I am reaching the limit a lot faster now and definitely driving it harder than normal. I really have to get used to the rear. This reminds me a lot of driving my S2k, the rear-end feels the same - just wasn't expecting it from the caddy.

    Just a FYI...this is not from street driving.
    Great real-world feedback. How's your wheelhop?

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    Re: Interest in Delrin Cradle Bushings ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    Great real-world feedback. How's your wheelhop?
    To be honest...I haven't noticed any wheel hop. For regular street driving it is very nice! I haven't done any clutch dumps (I won't either). At idle, the launches don't show any wheel hop - it used to be really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR

    Junior, I'm just guessing here, but on cars with firmer suspesion, they don't telegraph as much before you lose grip. With wobblier suspension bits, you will get body roll and other feedback that will tell you "holy shit" before the back walks out. I would imagine with the firmer bushings, you wouldn't be getting as much of that shimmy/wobble that would ordinarily be in indication to back off the throttle. Perhaps this in part is what happened to philistine.
    I agree. Max grip won't change, but you're tightening the tolerance from initial stress of suspension components to max stress.


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