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it's getting bad. I can't control myself

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My driving is downright criminal, I need some advice. I don't know who else to talk to about this.

so anyway, I was wondering what's a good coilover kit for maybe an inch of lowering and some stiffer spring rates?
 
#2 ·
Yours too huh? My advice on that is; Leave it stock and you'll keep your speeds a lil lower..lol..enjoy but be careful and by all means not around other motorists..ya never know how there gonna react when they see a car sideways on a cloverleaf speeding near them, while there eyes are as big as beachballs
 
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yes it's bad. and I hear a clunk in the back under hard acceleration, sometimes it's on the left, sometimes on the right. :-/

Ground Control like: this kit?

and to me, MM means maximum motorsports. will you clarify that one please? also, what is a DE

I definitely find myself in the same boat sometimes. This car is just way too much fun. I am thinking that maybe going to the track with it once in a while may help but I haven't gone yet.

Where are you located?
Cerritos 90703

KW Variant3
I'm not sure what KW is, will you disambiguate, please :)

make a switch that limits power anytime the instant mpg readout drops below 8mpg. Below that is when you are breaking one law, statute, or ordinance.
mpg is an interesting metric to set a power limiter by. don't think I would use it, though... there are times when I need the power...
 
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My driving is downright criminal, I need some advice. I don't know who else to talk to about this.
Move to Germany. Drive on Autobahn. Mash gas all the way down all the time. Go to track. Drive snot out of car.

It's hard to see how I will ever be able to live anywhere else. Especially in the idiotic land of state troopers and 55 mph speed limits.
 
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D3 is in signal hill whaaaat

wow but there's no way i'm spending $2k on suspension.

if all I want is an inch lower, and better twitch steering response and less sway (after a sway bar upgrade)... what's the least expensive way to do this? (street sway is so embarrassing)

say if I went with eibach springs--what shocks could I use to avoid the OEM-only situation? would ground control give me more freedom with strut/shock choice?

greater than 1", but less than 2"
easy on the $$
not so concerned about ride quality or adjustment
won't see track use

I get the feeling Eibach is what will help me accomplish this, but the ground control looks $$-light, too.

between Eibach springs and Ground Control, and considering their shock/strut replacement choices and cost, which is the better lowering option? (I'm a "90% is still an A" kinda guy...)
 
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What kind of miles do you have on your V now? $2k is kind of hard to swallow for the KW, but if you consider the total cost Ground Control to lower and replacing your shocks when the stock ones go bad, they really aren't that much more. If you have more than 75k on the stock shocks I'd suggest planning on replacing them sooner than later.

I'm not sure that you can still find Eibach springs for our car, I think they stopped making them. The only option that I know for sure that you can still get is springs from H&R. I believe you can find the H&R springs on Tirerack.com.
 
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Andringa, and Twitch: considering your advice, that $2k might be necessary...

I'm at 98k and some change, and while the springs and shocks feel "ok" and they're great if I stay off the gas, I agree they're due for a change. however, the key to having this pre-owned V has/will be $ smart solutions to make it stronger and ready for another 100k miles.

the upgrades/updates planned are a 6.6 kit and relevant motor updates, stronger diff, axles, wheel bearings, beefier sways, and a fresh transmission. also corsa exhaust for vanity. Something about the KW/GC/Eibach/D3 options and what I've read about them... feel like $2k is breaking the cost/benefit/durability ratio quite a bit.

however. if it was worth the durability, and it was a name I at least -recognized- producing the shocks, I would go for it. for example, Bilstein coilovers such as the ones offered by LG Motorsports seems more worth $2k....

thoughts? (whoa, misfire on the LG motorsports link. turns out those are for vettes. maybe a phone call or email is in order.)

JDB, I laughed over the Driver's Education bit. I would not track this car because of the wear/tear, and it's not worth the thrill... but the driver's license classroom course... I wonder if they're elective, and if there is one that is better than the others. I've never attended one, but I've heard some are as bad as a VHS tape played to a classroom, and that's it ("that'll be $300, thanks very much").
 
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JDB, I laughed over the Driver's Education bit. I would not track this car because of the wear/tear, and it's not worth the thrill... but the driver's license classroom course... I wonder if they're elective, and if there is one that is better than the others. I've never attended one, but I've heard some are as bad as a VHS tape played to a classroom, and that's it ("that'll be $300, thanks very much").


Not worth the thrill? That's like saying sex isn't worth the thrill when you're dating a porn star.

You bought a V, enjoying it, but in the wrong environment. You're much better off mod'ing the driver than any other mod you do to the car. And, if you track your car, you wont drive like a fuqtard on the street.
 
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if that's supposed to be encouragement, I agree a commuter car would limit my V-driving, and help with a few other things like the lifespan of the V, and gas $... I would go with a pre owned corolla
 
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You guys must drive long commutes to actually save $ having a commuter car versus just getting worse MPG with a V versus your commuter car. After the purchase of the car, insurance, maintenance ...how long does it take to save $?? How much do you actually save? Is that amount really worth driving some econ crap box? I couldn't do it.
 
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It is if:
1. I don't want to put miles on my V that quickly just for commuting
2. I enjoy modding the crap out of my V and don't mind if it is on jacks for a few days at a time
3. I enjoy modding it so I don't have to rely on it to never have problems/break down
4. I can prevent the major wear and tear associated with commuting (rock chips, interior materials wearing, more frequent fluid changes)

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There is a coilover kit from Ksport available as well. I believe they are <$1k, but my impression is that you get what you pay for. People seem to say that they do well on the road, but don't belong anywhere near the track. Which I take to mean they really wouldn't be what I would want based on how I drive.
I have run my D2's on the track and I will admit the spring that come with them are a little soft but I have firmed them up to 600/650 and plan to head back out to the track and see. remember they do have 32 levels of adjustment in the shocks. I have them pretty stiff
 
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no wait i think you might be on to something. I don't have anything other than the V at the moment, but I might if it seems extra special.

nothing beats the Geo Metro as cheap a commuter, imo.
 
#39 ·
in the meantime, probably more likely, is one of these... (geo metros are hard to come by, and i'm sure that corolla is, too)

a porsche speedster replica built on a VW bug chassis and motor

my roommate left a job at the speedster shop recently, for a job working in oil fields near Dallas... the owner of the speedster shop is a great guy, and cuts his employees a no-resale deal on them...

I want to start working there in the summer

the downside to a 86 corolla or a geo metro is, I would be tempted to put $ into improving them
 
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it's light, and fast enough... I think one of the options is a 1000cc motor. The problem with making it fast is it doesn't handle. it's a boulevard queen.

the wide body option with the wheels are extra, and I don't think I would want them. Behind me in this pic is one of the more conservative packages
 
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