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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Recently acquired my first Cad and thought you might like a picture and an interesting story. First the pic. Second, ...
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    First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Recently acquired my first Cad and thought you might like a picture and an interesting story.

    First the pic.



    Second, the story.

    I'm a RN and work for a rural home care company. On the side I work out of my garage for some spare income. Six weeks ago a lady I work with asked me if I could haul an old car away for her "by Saturday" as her family was coming in to visit and they wanted it out of the way. I said "sure, I've got a bunch of vacation built up, I'll take tomorrow off." Yup the pic is worth a thousand words. Her mom has Alzheimer's and they had a title but no keys. When we saw the car we told her she could sell it for good money. She said "we have tried and no one will give us anything without the keys". We tried again and she got frustrated and said "please ... we just want it gone". It has been garage kept it's whole life, has 128k miles, and the tires are new from the last time it was driven in 2004.

    We took the car and she thanked us. Oddly ... she called me the next evening and sounded upset, I thought she wanted the car back. Not even close, she said that her mom had had her first day of clarity in years. She was determined to find the keys "for that nice man and his son" so we could drive the car. I told coworker that I would get it running and bring it back so she could sell it. She told me that having a day with her mom again was worth 10 cars.

    Well we have fallen in love with this thing. We put 1200 miles on it in the first month. I have removed the A/C for now and replaced all the fluids, and all the rubber on the motor.

    Mileage is up from 9 to 12mpg. Apparently having the vacuum advance hooked to the HEI really does help.

    First questions of many to come:

    1) I have eliminated all emissions and replaced all vacuum lines except for the valve in the heater hose at the rear of the block going into the heater core. Climate control, both hot and cold work fine (no A/C obviously). Do I need a vacuum line to it and if so where does it come from. I would rather leave it off if possible.

    2) An old mechanic advised me to hook vacuum advance to manifold instead of carb. Thought being quicker advance will help with driveability and mileage. Seems to be working well so far.

    3) Are there any shop manuals available?

    Looks like we'll be keeping this one. If you had offered me one for free I would have told you we can't afford it as our daughter just started med school. But since it was a good person who needed help I have one now and the family loves it.

    700$ total so far including a stereo to make my 15 year old son and 21 year old daughter happy. 40 year old speakers sound pretty good.

    Car rides and handles like a dream. Starts up first turn of the key. I don't want to bother the interior at all if I can help it. Even mounted a 20$ tach in the ashtray as we don't smoke and it will keep the original dash intact. Except for the stereo.


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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Wow it looks like a super nice car from the pic and can't beat the price!

    1) Usually climate control does have a vaccuum line of some sort, look for it going thru the fire wall.
    2) Depending on where the hose was hooked up on the carb it could already have been getting manifold vacuum. The only other choice is ported vacuum that cuts out at idle. It's best to hook up the the advance wherever it should have been originally.
    3) Yes. Check ebay.

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Wow!!!!


    .........and welcome!!!

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    She's a beauty. That was top of the line in its day. Thanks for sharing the story.......you lucky dog.

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Your story has warmed my heart and put a smile on my face!

    Just a great thing to see. A wonderful Cadillac gifted by sweet people, to a caretaker who will honor it, and the previous owner, by driving and loving it.

    I have loved these old models since I bought my first one at 19 years old. It makes my heart glad to see not only you discover the great joy of these monsters, but especially your son and daughter.

    I am so glad you found the forum and shared with us!

    The factory service manuals are available on both Ebay and Amazon. There is a service and a body manual, you want to get both. They are also available on CD but while your son may find it better, I still prefer the books.(Age thing)

    If you search for them I have found good deals on Amazon by looking under books instead of Motors. To book sellers they seam to be hard to sell with a limited audience. I have picked up several for many years above and below my car and usually never pay over $20.00 each. Avoid the Chilton's or Hayes books. They are of limited use. I have them just to double check what the factory manual says, sometimes has a different photo angle or description that helps me get a mental picture, but the factory manual is really all you need.
    http://www.amazon.com/Original-Manua...adillac+manual
    http://www.amazon.com/Cadillac-Repai...adillac+manual
    http://www.amazon.com/CADILLAC-Eldor...adillac+manual
    http://www.amazon.com/Cadillac-Devil...+repair+manual

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Thank you guys for the quick answers.

    Ordered the CD shop manual as above.

    Is that just for body?

    What about drivetrain?

    Going to replace all the fuel line components around the engine this weekend and install a tranny cooler next.

    Afterwords want to replace timing chain and upgrade rockers and valve seals to prevent contamination in the oil pan.

    Would like to have all the torque specs and shop manual instructions I can get my grubby little hands on.

    Plastic/nylon timing gear teeth and valve guides plugging oil pickup are my concern on a motor this old.

    It runs so well and has such an interesting history that the whole family adopted it overnight.

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Sweet Car!.

    Worst case on the Manuels I think you cad get reprinted ones from RockAuto.

    I really don't think its necessary too work on Real Cadillac engines, they are made too go 500k miles.

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Nice car and touching story.

    My mom had Alzheimer's, as did my best friend's dad & now my wife's older brother, so I can understand your co-worker's feelings.

    Climate Control. Even in the mid 70s there were Lots of vacuum lines associated with this, so you really need to go through the service manual. The service or shop manual had the engine, / drivetrain, chassis, brakes steering suspension, etc. The body manual has the doors fenders, bumpers, lights, etc. You will want both.

    Where do you live that you can take off the compressor and not swelter in the car? I would put it back in, hook up the belts and run it on Economy / Vent (depends on the year). The Auto or Defog / Defrost options will come in Very handy in rain, because the car will deliver dehumidified air.

    That was the big thing with Climate Control - dehumidified air all the time for maximum comfort and NO window fogging ever (unless you are getting things going in the back seat ).

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Nice catch and welcome.

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    The CD version has both service and body manuals. You should be fine with it.
    The only thing you might be missing is a wiring diagram which is folded up in the service manual. It has been so long since I used the CD I do not remember.

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    Re: First post, first pic, first Cadillac and first question

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillacmike68 View Post

    Where do you live that you can take off the compressor and not swelter in the car?

    (unless you are getting things going in the back seat ).
    Added location above, Central WV and summer has been mild so far.

    Removed A/C neatly so I could replace later as finances and need require it.

    Focusing now on replacing 40 years of wear and tear and poor mechanic - ing.

    And I just asked the wife about fogging the rear windows and she gave me the response.
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