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    This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    One reason among many! While today's small cars are much safer than before, with all the SUVs/CUVs on the roads, it is good to have a heavy car to stand a chance.

    Then again, the title of the post amused me because m Brougham IS my economy car.
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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    Quote Originally Posted by Gman1023 View Post
    Then again, the title of the post amused me because my Brougham IS my economy car.

    Perhaps I should have used Econobox. Yes, it is hard for people to believe the kind of mileage our Broughams get for such a large car.
    I liked the fact that the lights were still on after the crash! I think he might have broken a cornering light and bent the bumper a bit. Maybe the hood ornament mounting broke too. What? $50 damage?

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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    That it what you call getting run over by a tank right there...

    When I see shoe box car with back seats so close to the rear bumper I cringe... I ain't sitting back there, even in a small collision you're dead.
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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    Quote Originally Posted by rodnok01 View Post
    I ain't sitting back there, even in a small collision you're dead.
    Yes, that is my sentiment as well.

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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    They make Brougham Hearses.
    The do not make Economy Hearses.

    I have no choice.

    No, really though. Safety is definitely a plus. I actually drive a Brougham over an economy car though, because it is better at...everything...except saving fuel (Which I thoroughly oppose)

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    An '80's Stanza is one thing. Newer cars hold up MUCH better.


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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    An '80's Stanza is one thing. Newer cars hold up MUCH better.

    That test wasn't entirely accurate... If your look close, the engine had been removed from the Bel Air; that's why it disintegrated upon impact. I would not be surprised if (to prove a point, or to provide a more graphic demonstration) the IIHS also removed structural supports or cut the frame rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sven914 View Post

    That test wasn't entirely accurate... If your look close, the engine had been removed from the Bel Air; that's why it disintegrated upon impact. I would not be surprised if (to prove a point, or to provide a more graphic demonstration) the IIHS also removed structural supports or cut the frame rail.
    That bel air had an "x frame"....they weren't exactly strong when new (and IIRC, they went to a normal style frame the next year)....and the engine was still in the bel air.
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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    Watch the rocker panel area behind the front wheel on both sides and see the huge cloud of rust that come blowing out. You know they didn't find a low mile original car that was in great shape to crash.

    Soak that 2014 in salt water up to its body side molding for a couple years and then lets do an apples to apples test.

    Even the weak poorly designed x-frame would hold up better than that in new rust free condition. Just remember that this film is a commercial, filmed with the intent of selling you a product.

    The fact that it is a "non-profit org." does not change that. It's employees are not volunteers, they will only continue to be paid if people continue to buy their product.
    They produce a video like this, release it as "news", and every network treats it as such and runs their commercial for their product free of charge.

    Sells a lot of magazines and increases their earning.

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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    I have no doubt airbags on frontal impacts can save lives..however I can guarantee anyone sitting in back of focus is dead if I plow into them...
    A Malibu is an entirely different and much larger car.

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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    Every week in our newspaper there is a report of a head on collision with a small car and an SUV. The SUV driver always walks away and the small car driver almost always gets killed. It sucks when a distracted SUV driver kills some innocent person in their economy car. I am seriously thinking about getting some kind of truck for daily driving. A full size Caddy would be a good second choice.

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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    This video the Brougham vs eco thingy is kinda funny yet scary . You can find comments saying that you could feel groggy when an old bog car hit something whereas newer cars hold you better because of improved impact points ,airbags,crumple zones etc
    OK, I take the point but if your body is only as thick as a a tenth of an oil tin it's vein it has 10000000 airbags not to mention it can stand a chance against a SUV .
    As for the video Malibu vs Malibu or anything like this Asian Chevy ,I always take grain of salt for it ,I knew they somewhat manipulated things to sell the item for . I have seen a '57 Cadillac Fleetwood and the doors are so heavy that you have to use a heavy muscle .In English almost as heavy as a fully armored Suburban
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    Re: This is why I drive the Brougham over an Economy Car

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac kevin View Post
    That bel air had an "x frame"....they weren't exactly strong when new (and IIRC, they went to a normal style frame the next year)....and the engine was still in the bel air.
    Engine still in but with the one year only junk frame like that, what can you expect? Do that with a 1959 Eldorado and see what happens. That hunk of crap Malibu would be blasted to Malibu. lol lol
    The frame in question:


    Hitting it at section four causes it to buckle because section 6 buckles either up or to the side. This is NOT what out Broughams drive on---obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac_al View Post
    Every week in our newspaper there is a report of a head on collision with a small car and an SUV. The SUV driver always walks away and the small car driver almost always gets killed. It sucks when a distracted SUV driver kills some innocent person in their economy car. I am seriously thinking about getting some kind of truck for daily driving. A full size Caddy would be a good second choice.
    This is what gets me. Out here they keep trying to make people get rid of their big cars for smaller fuel efficient death traps. I can see the obvious reason now. You can't sell new cars that will get creamed by SUVs and big old cars. So you invent studies that show the tin can will hold up to an impact with a sledgehammer if you put bags of air in it and crumple zones like egg shells. Then you hire "non-profit" groups to produce staged crash tests instead of real life possible crashes like the above. Yes, I get it all now. It all makes nasty sense.......

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    Ok, ok. No X frame (please ignore the narrator calling the Northstar a big block and the '62 15' long...):


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