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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, RE: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by talismandave Bucky, this just went up on Milwaukee WI CL. No mention of if it is a ...
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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave View Post
    Bucky, this just went up on Milwaukee WI CL. No mention of if it is a factory or a conversion, but worth a call perhaps?

    http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4396727844.html
    Yes, call the idiot and sort him out.

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Its a conversion by Superior. Seller said "very little difference from a factory", which I disagreed with. What an idiot I am for even disagreeing with this guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky Barbour View Post
    Its a conversion by Superior. Seller said "very little difference from a factory", which I disagreed with. What an idiot I am for even disagreeing with this guy!
    If I had to buy a conversion limo, it would be a superior....but its still not a factory limo.

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac kevin View Post
    If I had to buy a conversion limo, it would be a superior....but its still not a factory limo.
    Agreed.

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Sorry for the bum lead Bucky. We'll find you one. Only a matter of time.

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    I appreciate your keeping an eye out for me. I get more experienced every day with the help I have received here. It may take a month or a year, but I feel confident I'll end up with the right car.
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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    That is so much more important than when!

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    There is a decent 1984 non-division limo on eBay starting $2,000 no reserve. Check it out.

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    I appreciate your lead. This car has been posted on other sites for a while now. It has 164,000 miles on it with lots of concerns that were mentioned on other sites and not on ebay. It appears the seller has come to a conclusion, auction it on ebay and take what he can. Again I appreciate the lead and will watch ebay to see what he gets.

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Man.... I almost wish I never read this thread When I was looking for a 1st gen Seville, I almost bought one from a guy that drives limos as his personal cars. He's into the Sevilles and limos hard core and I've stayed in touch with him over these last couple years. Loves to show pics of his cars. He's got a 79 limo and an 82. They both look so sharp. He's had others and recently bought a 2001. Now, I'm not sure if the 79 and 82 are non formal, but what sharp rides. Then I saw the green 77 limo in this thread! I love 77s ever since the late eighties when my man had a 77 Sedan Deville, brown with the tan top. Lately I've been thinking of getting a 77 Sedan Deville for short money, just to play with and enjoy that 425. Though I really prefer Broughams over Sedan Devilles, a limo might be just the ticket! As if I really needed to add another Caddy (and bigger one at that) to my list. I'm going to have to buy a piece of land, and build a garage with an apartment above it and live there, or move into a barn with a loft, or a fire station. ....why couldn't I be happy with one, or two even? Why do I want five or seven?
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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky Barbour View Post
    I appreciate your keeping an eye out for me. I get more experienced every day with the help I have received here. It may take a month or a year, but I feel confident I'll end up with the right car.
    Well, it took me one year and two months to find just the right limousine I wanted (a '76 with black exterior & interior, black leather front seat and black crushed velour rear seat and rear radio controls).

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky Barbour View Post
    Thanks for the responses, APPRECIATED!

    I'm somewhat more educated now thanks to data provided.

    Technically speaking, would I be correct in stating that I'm interested in "1980-1984 Factory Cadillac Fleetwood 75 Limosuine?" I'm only interested in factory production cars not in coach built "stretched." From what I have read 1980-1984 Factory Cadillac Fleetwood 75 Limosines have a wheelbase of 134.4 inches (11'2), width 76.4 inches (6'4) and overall bumper to bumper length 221 inches (18'5). Its snowy here in PA today and my garage is in some what of a snow disarray, but a close measuement of my garage length is about 21 ft. Am I correct that overall bumper to bumper length is 221 inches.

    I'm much further along in just one day thanks to you guys here on the forum. Just want to be sure of overall length before I go any further.

    Once again, thanks.

    Bucky Barbour
    I am curious... why a 1980-'84 limousine? Parking room? Your 21-foot long garage may be able to handle the biggest Cadillac limousines. The longest Cadillac Fleetwood Seventy-Fives were the 1974-'76 at 252.2" or a fraction over 21 feet. Maybe a few adjustments to the garage door/or other would work. My '76 limousine (fortunately) does fit in my 22-foot long garage.

    Here are the wheelbase and overall length numbers from my Cadillac brochures:

    Year--------- Wheelbase-- Overall length

    1975-'76---- 151.5"------- 252.2"
    1977-'79---- 144.5"------- 244.2"
    1980--------- 144.5"------ 244.1"
    1983--------- 144.5"------ 244.3"
    (FWB 1987)- 134.4"------ 218.6"

    I prefer the 1976 and earlier because it had these features which were dropped after 1976:

    - Power glass partition window
    - Separate front/rear climate control
    - Fender skirts-
    - 500-cu-in engine
    - 9-passenger (instead of 7-8 for the post '76)
    - Separate key for right rear door on limousine models
    - Longer wheelbase and overall length; heavier weight

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
    I am curious... why a 1980-'84 limousine? Parking room? Your 21-foot long garage may be able to handle the biggest Cadillac limousines. The longest Cadillac Fleetwood Seventy-Fives were the 1974-'76 at 252.2" or a fraction over 21 feet. Maybe a few adjustments to the garage door/or other would work. My '76 limousine (fortunately) does fit in my 22-foot long garage.

    Here are the wheelbase and overall length numbers from my Cadillac brochures:

    Year--------- Wheelbase-- Overall length

    1975-'76---- 151.5"------- 252.2"
    1977-'79---- 144.5"------- 244.2"
    1980--------- 144.5"------ 244.1"
    1983--------- 144.5"------ 244.3"
    (FWB 1987)- 134.4"------ 218.6"

    I prefer the 1976 and earlier because it had these features which were dropped after 1976:

    - Power glass partition window
    - Separate front/rear climate control
    - Fender skirts-
    - 500-cu-in engine
    - 9-passenger (instead of 7-8 for the post '76)
    - Separate key for right rear door on limousine models
    - Longer wheelbase and overall length; heavier weight

    My garage is 23'6 long, enough to house a 77-84 Cadillac "Factory" Limousine. I really like the squared body style for this era. I have ben looking for a few months now and am staying patient. Have been close a few times now, so I'll stay patient. thanks for the info!

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    Re: WTB 1977 to 1984 Cadillac Factory Fleetwood Limousine

    Yes, 23'6" is long enough to house any factory Cadillac limousine. I just remembered a friend (but whom I've only seen/talked to about 5 times) that had his black 1980 formal limousine up for sale in 2008. I found the old ad... 87,000 miles, black exterior and interior (no vinyl roof), black leather front seat and black cloth rear seat. His asking price was kind of high... $9,500. As far as I know, he still has it. Car is in Montrose, about 15 miles north of Los Angeles.

    I know you want a blue one. Yes, good idea to be patient. The right one should show up eventually.

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    Bucky, this came up on STL craigslist, but it is in columbia (middle of MO, about a 3 hour round trip drive from me)
    Its a 77 limo....appears to be factory. I know its not blue, or perfect, but MO isn't too hard on cars rust wise as long as the undercarriage was hosed off religiously during/ after winter.

    http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4423021804.html

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