RWD 19xx-1984 DeVille and Fleetwood, 1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham ForumForum for discussions regarding the rear wheel drive Pre80s-1984 DeVille and Fleetwood, 1985-1996 Fleetwood/Brougham.
Hi, my first post. I am thinking of buying a 95 Fleetwood, and so I emailed Katshot for some advice.
I saw that he is a member here, and so I thought I would post and see what you all think too.
Here is what I sent:
Hi, I am DeanstuD on impalassforum. I wanted a Fleetwood sooo bad, but the
guy wouldn't deal, and so I let my wife talk me into buying an SS. I have
really enjoyed my SS, and plan to keep it. However I am often wishing I had
gotten the Caddy.
Well I have another opertunity, for a black 95.
I am worried though because it is 3k miles from me in NJ, and it is SO cheap
under $2800.
I value your opinion after reading many posts and especially since you have
so much specific experiance in Fleetwoods.
Supposed to be a nice overal car. The guy who is selling, usually buys 9C1s
at auction. He saw this LT1 caddy and just wanted to "rescue" it. Says he
got it for a good price and is just passing it on. Says he really believes I
could drive it home. It has 117k miles.
I have been looking into transport companys, and it looks like it will cost
me about $1k to get it shipped to me here in Oregon.
I would like any input and advice you could offer. link to pics
117,000 miles? only$2800? That's a pretty amazing deal! I'd be inclined to buy the thing.....Did he give you the V.I.N.?Can you run a car fax? If you get a clear car fax report on it, It's probably well worth taking a chance on! I'd buy it if I got that. Hell, I'd probably buy it anyway!
Sorry dude, I don't remember getting an e-mail from you.
Anyway, I'm gonna tell you something that you might find hard to believe. This car is a livery car and I THINK that it may have been one of my fleet cars. If so, the mileage has been altered. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen one of my old fleet cars on a car lot with LESS mileage than it had when I sold it. I sold them with roughly 200K miles. Some a little more, some a little less.
I have the vin and will TRY to look it up in some of my old paperwork.
Talk about a small world
This isn't carfax, but here is some info I got from Vinguy:
VIN: 1G6DW52PXSR705218
VEHICLE INFORMATION
Merchandising Model: 6DW69 - 1995 FLEETWOOD Warranty Start Date:
02/03/1995
BARS Order Type 70 - RETAIL - STOCK
Delivering Dealer : POTAMKIN CADILLAC-BUICK-CHEVROLET-PONTIAC-GMC
798 11TH AVE
NEW YORK, NY 10019-3575
(212) 399-4400
Selling Source: 12 - CADILLAC
Site Code: 23026
Business Associate Code: 119086
Service Contract: No Branded Title: No Warranty Block: No PDI Status:
Paid
CAMPAIGN ELIGIBILITY
Campaign Number Description Owner Notified Campaign Status
95073 ACCELERATOR PEDAL ASSEMBLY N/A Open
APPLICABLE WARRANTIES
Description Effective Date Effective Odometer End Date End Odometer
48/50000 BUMPER TO BUMPER - NO DEDUCTIBLE 02/03/1995 0 miles 2/3/1999
50000 miles
72/100000 SHEET METAL RUST-THROUGH 02/03/1995 0 miles 2/3/2001 100000
miles
48/50000 SHEET METAL CORROSION 02/03/1995 0 miles 2/3/1999 50000 miles
96/80000 PCM/CC EMISSIONS 02/03/1995 0 miles 2/3/2003 80000 miles
CLAIM HISTORY
R.O.
Date R.O.
Number Type Labor Operation Odometer
Reading
03/19/1997 098273 # E9050 - POW STEER PUMP RPL 24187 miles
07/25/1995 060827 # N6270 - ENGINE WRG REP 5826 miles
07/25/1995 060827 # Z7903 - 3-DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 5826 miles
07/25/1995 060827 # J4226 - SPARK PLUGS - REPLACE. 5826 miles
11/04/1994 705218 I Z7000 - NEW VEHICLE INSPECTION ALLOWANCE 0 miles
VIN: 1G6DW52PXSR705218
VEHICLE BUILD
Merchandising Model: 6DW69 - 1995 FLEETWOOD
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: 2565 kg (5656 lb) Order Number: Q158ZL
Build Date: 10/19/1994 Build Plant: 1SRD - ARLINGTON ASSEMBLY PLANT
OPTION CODES
AK5 AM6 - SEAT - 60/40 SPLIT FRONT BENCH
ARL - ARLINGTON, TX, USA A75 - BACK FRT, HD
C68 - ELECT AIR CONDITIONING DE5 - DR/PASS PWR HTD FOLDING
FE2 - TOURING CAR SUSPENSION FE9 - FEDERAL EMISSIONS
GW9 - 2.93 REAR AXLE RATIO IQ2 - INTERIOR DESIGN (Q2)
JA2 - POWER BRAKES JM4 - ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM
KC4 - ENG OIL KD1 - TRANS, OIL
KG9 - 140 AMP LT1 - GAS, 8 CYL, 5.7L, MFI, HO
MX0 - 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION M30 - 4L60 AUTO TRANS
NA5 - EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL TIER 0 NP5 - STEERING WHEEL- LEATHER
WRAPPED
NV7 - POWER STEERING VARIABLE N08 - FUEL FILLER DR, REM CONT
N81 - FULL SIZE PA3 - ALUMINUM WHEELS
QMV - P235/70R15-102S WS1 R/PE ST TL R1P - HEAVY DUTY,
COACHBUILDER/LIVERY
R8P - SALES ITEM NO. 65 UA6
UW6 - 6, CUSTOM U02 - INSTRUMENT CLUSTER
U1H - AM/FM STER COMPACT DISC U75 - POWER ANTENNA
VK3 - FRT MOUNTING PKG VL7 - BUMPER IMPACT, 5 MPH, FRT & RR,
V03 - EXTRA CAPACITY V4R - VEHICLE SECURITY
V73 - USA/CANADA YL1
YN3 - STATE OF NEW YORK YN6 - DOMESTIC ORDERS
YN7 - CENTRAL OFFICE ORDERS Y34 - SALES ZONE, NEW YORK
19I - BLACK (I) (96) 192 - BLACK LEATHER
41U - BLACK 6TP - COMPUTER SEL SUSP (6TP)
7TP - COMPUTER SEL SUSP (7TP) 8HF - COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8HF)
9HF - COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9HF)
As I recall, the FE2 is the package that comes with the R1P package. It's just slightly higher rate springs I think. The FE7 is the package that comes with the V4U limousine chassis. That is the one with the bigger components (BJ's, center link, tie-rods, etc.) It's been awhile since I looked it up so don't hold me to this.
Definately NOT one of my old cars. It was registered in NYC it's whole life. I can tell you that it has had a HARD life. Strangly low mileage for the last year or so. Look for evidence that it spent some time sitting in a body shop. Also, if the car sits like that for long periods of time with the battery connected, expect a lot of rust and corrosion.
Originally posted by Katshot It was registered in NYC it's whole life. I can tell you that it has had a HARD life.
I has had a hard life, you can see that just by the damage in these photo's. That will cost you.
Mechanically, it's a Chevy so Chevy prices will mainly apply. But the trim is all Cadillac, so Cadillac prices will apply.
If your good at body work then this might be a vehicle to consider. It is, IMHO, the best color combination they made. The black interior especially helps keep them from looking dirty and old.
I was thinking, that since it says it was a Diplomatic vehicle, it wouldn't be as trashed as a regular Livery car. The price even after shipping is less than half of what I can find them for.