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    jukelemon is offline Cadillac Owners Member
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    Looking for some help..

    Hi all. New to the forum. Looks like a great place so far.

    About me..

    I am no stranger to old cars/cycles. I have been restoring/refurbishing HD's for the last 20 years or so. Always loved old cars as well but never really into restoration like the cycles..mainly because of the lack of work space.

    Anyhoo..

    I sold a 1967 Caddy years back for a farmer who had it in his garage. Ever since then, I have wanted one. I am now at a point where I CAN get one and was hoping for some advice.

    I am ONLY wanting a 65-68 Caddy Deville Convertible. I think they are the best looking Caddy to date.

    Ideally I am wanting a rust free, southwest type car but I know they fetch high dollar. Several around for ~10k.

    I am not concerned with brakes/suspension etc. I can redo those myself. In other words, general and mid level maintenance is not an issue.

    What are the most concerning parts for these years?

    I know nothing about the 472's. Durable engine? Prone to leaks?

    Thanks for all your assistance. I am buying on this week.

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Welcome. Those are beautiful cars. Good luck finding the one for you.
    I am not one of the experts here, they will fill in details for you. I have owned 4 472s and have found them to be pretty bullet-proof with reasonable up-keep.



    If you can afford the gas for it, repairs should be within your budget!

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Welcome to the forum. You mention you are interested in 1965 - '68 convertibles. Plus, you mention the 472 power plant. I wonder why, as the 472 was not the engine used in those years. Changing out the 429 for the 472 takes a lot of planning, as the drive trains in these applications were substantially different.

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    472 was in the 68. That body style is definately a top three for me also.

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Sorry for the confusion.

    I have seen the 429's as well. I am looking at a 68 currently and that is why I mentioned the 472.

    0 intentions of changing out a drivetrain. I do not modify the vehicles I buy...I like to keep them stock for the most part. I am the guy still using points and condensers on my Harleys

    Thanks for the replies and welcome. Keep it coming

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Welcome, I love stacked headlights too , these cars are unmistakable and may be inspiring today's Caddies in regards to headlamp design

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    I would go with the 68 just because of the 472. On the 429 from the 67 and before some new parts can't be had.. You will always looking for good used ones.. The oil pump in the timing case cover is the problem..

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Good point. When I had my last 472 in the 80's no one made any after-market parts. Now with this one I could build it up like crazy if I wanted to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave
    Good point. When I had my last 472 in the 80's no one made any after-market parts. Now with this one I could build it up like crazy if I wanted to!
    Do It! You need to have a 500+hp motor to pull around that limo!

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Look for Rust on the body and underside and busted up or missing interior and exterior parts except for plastic fillers those aren't a big deal.
    As far as the motor, you can't find a better designed one, not even in a new caddy.

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Any of these cars would be a solid choice. The 68 is preferable to the 67 solely because of the 472, which is probably the best motor Cadillac ever built. Rust is the biggest concern with these cars, esp in the lower fenders, rockers, floor/trunk pan, and the top well in the case of the convertibles. Also, trim pieces unique to the convertibles can be hard to find if missing or damaged. After that, it's a matter of whether you prefer the classic, squared-up styling of 1965/66 or the more swoopy Coke-bottle styling of 1967/68.

    My own preference would be for 1965, as I like its design details most. Happy hunting!

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Well, bought the 68. 99k on odometer. Getting delivered next week!

    I am prepping for a carb rebuild. Seller says it runs "rich". But he is not a car guy nor a mechanic. Says it backfires some when cold.

    Supposed to have new points/condenser.

    Looking forward to digging into such a nice part of history.

    Do you guys have a recommendation for a carb? Rebuild old one? Replace?

    Will need a good service manual. My other sites have these on line for download. Do we have that resource here?

    Thanks all.

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Congrats!

    It is a fun addiction. I have bought several of the official GM shop manuals from Amazon for around $15.00-$20.00.

    I think I searched in books not automotive to find the good deals. I just remember the first searches came up really high and by retrying different ways I found some much cheaper ones.

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    Re: Looking for some help..

    Ebay also has factory service manuals all day long for not much money. As to the carb, you can rebuild the existing one or swap it out for an already rebuilt Q-Jet or aftermarket replacement like an Edelbrock.

    Congrats on the 68! Post pics ASAP!

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