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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by cadillac kevin He is saying that he believes he has seen your car before and the scenery ...
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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac kevin View Post
    He is saying that he believes he has seen your car before and the scenery around it looks familiar.
    No, not his car. The one from the photo of The Hartford Guy's.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    No, not his car. The one from the photo of The Hartford Guy's.
    Most of his pictures come from for sale ads and other websites, that's why a lot look familiar.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Hi Guys!

    That is indeed an ASC elDeora. And in a wild color too. Persian Lime Green Firemist is a great color for 1974 Cadillacs.
    ASC offered the eldeora package all through the seventies. You could order one with as many custom features as your budget allowed. ASC has been making special cars for the factory for decades. The most notable car they made was the 1984 & 1985 Eldorado Biarritz convertibles. Their aftermarket custom packages such as the elDeora were never factory authorized and probably annoyed the factory stylist for sure. But these cars do represent a period in time and a sub car culture, thus some people do collect and restore them.

    You can't buy replacement parts other than used on Ebay or Craigslist. And you need to make sure they are ASC parts for the elDeoras, not the elClassico made by rival WISCO.

    I'd love to see more pics of that Lime elDeora. Post more when you can. The grille, trunklid etc.





    The more I look at the photos you posted, the car appears not to have an elDeora roof. It could be that someone just added an elDeora emblem they found. The extra chrome trim on the rear wheel skirt is odd. I've never seen that on any elDeoras or anyother custom Cadillacs of this era.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by brougham View Post
    Most of his pictures come from for sale ads and other websites, that's why a lot look familiar.
    I think I've BEEN there. That's the problem. Possibly the same backdrops that the guys at Classics By Lash use for their photographs. Done business with the company in the past, but never as a customer/bought a car from them. Test drove one once. It was awful.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    I think I've BEEN there. That's the problem. Possibly the same backdrops that the guys at Classics By Lash use for their photographs. Done business with the company in the past, but never as a customer/bought a car from them. Test drove one once. It was awful.
    You got it! That seller used that neighborhood for their photoshoots. He doesn't take photos at this house anymore.

    Also correct that a huge number of the cars on my Flickr photostream are from internet classified ads. So many rare or beautiful cars hit the internet forsale, but then disappear after the sale. I started grabbing as many pics of rare cars and storing them for reference. Often I was asked to share them with friends and car club members to aid in their restorations or research. Eventually I just started uploading them to Flickr for easier storage and reference. I had no idea that Flickr tags were Google searchable until I noticed a huge following on Flickr. Now my Flickr photostream has been subdivided into different groups so my car friends and fans can search by catagories. Cad wagons, Cad pickups, etc etc.

    So the photos are more of a record that the car existed, not that I'm trying to say that I own over 20,000 cars. LOL.

    Oh, and that seller in Florida? I think he has three different seller names on Ebay. And uses three different locations for photos. Some of the cars look really really nice. Then again, some are missing moldings and/or emblems. So it is good you went to see the car in person. Buying a car over the internet without an inspection seems a risk for sure. I know some guys that have and gotten lucky, but why risk it?

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    I'm a big fan of your photo collection and have enjoyed many nights looking through them. Thank you for making them available to all. I advise anyone who loves Cadillacs (and has a couple of weeks to spare) to check them out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave View Post
    I'm a big fan of your photo collection and have enjoyed many nights looking through them. Thank you for making them available to all. I advise anyone who loves Cadillacs (and has a couple of weeks to spare) to check them out!
    Thanks Dave.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    I do the same thing and save pictures of cars I like from ads. Because some ad pictures are the best ones you see. I never thought of putting them on flickr tho.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave View Post
    el Deora was an after factory custom that was big in the early 70's. A quick search brought me to this link and it belongs to a member on this forum. Hopefully he will see this and ad his input. He is arguably the foremost photo historian of late 20th century Cadillacs.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_ch..._chrysler_guy/

    Wow- I just went through the flickr shots of the customized Cadillacs. I was in high school in the late 70's and remember some of these cars. Most of them are downright tacky, but I sure appreciate the time it took to compile this collection. Hartford Guy, have you ever seen a 1972 Lincoln Mark IV custom? After seeing all these pictures, I remember seeing a magazine article back then about some company doing the then new Mark IV as a wild total custom. I want to say it was called the Bugazzi? Ring any bells for you? If you find any pictures, let us know because I remember it being really wild. Thanks again, it sure was fun looking through all those pictures.

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    As soon as I wrote this, I just googled Bugazzi, and sure enough, there it was. George Barris built several heavily customized 1972 Lincoln Mark IV's back when they were new. They were designed by Harry Bradley, who, among other things, designed the first Hot Wheels cars in the late 1960's. Google Bugazzi, and there are several pictures of one that sold recently. It is wild-marble door panels, persian rugs instead of carpet, full bar in the back, 24 ct. gold trim, wild body mods, the works. Check it out.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by HartfordGuy View Post
    You got it! That seller used that neighborhood for their photoshoots. He doesn't take photos at this house anymore.

    Also correct that a huge number of the cars on my Flickr photostream are from internet classified ads. So many rare or beautiful cars hit the internet forsale, but then disappear after the sale. I started grabbing as many pics of rare cars and storing them for reference. Often I was asked to share them with friends and car club members to aid in their restorations or research. Eventually I just started uploading them to Flickr for easier storage and reference. I had no idea that Flickr tags were Google searchable until I noticed a huge following on Flickr. Now my Flickr photostream has been subdivided into different groups so my car friends and fans can search by catagories. Cad wagons, Cad pickups, etc etc.

    So the photos are more of a record that the car existed, not that I'm trying to say that I own over 20,000 cars. LOL.

    Oh, and that seller in Florida? I think he has three different seller names on Ebay. And uses three different locations for photos. Some of the cars look really really nice. Then again, some are missing moldings and/or emblems. So it is good you went to see the car in person. Buying a car over the internet without an inspection seems a risk for sure. I know some guys that have and gotten lucky, but why risk it?
    Actually, I see his inventory plenty. But it's always in person. I saw a Fleetwood Brougham he had (88 IIRC) and chose to test drive it. It sucked...like...really. I didn't see the online ad at all. Interestingly, a different forum member saw it later and I recall them posting about it and how I strongly advised against it, as I had driven the exact car.

    I more than occasionally have reason to be in Lakeland. Nice area...well, some of it.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Quote Originally Posted by brougham View Post
    I do the same thing and save pictures of cars I like from ads. Because some ad pictures are the best ones you see. I never thought of putting them on flickr tho.
    Thats how it started for me. But I am terrible at remembering to back up my files so I would loose all my pics whenever my computer crashed. LOL So by uploading all my photos to Flickr they are safe. Especially nowadays that we all use digital cameras. It is an easy way to share vacation photos too.

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    A couple of years ago I was looking at a 74 Newport forsale on both Ebay and Craigslist. It was nice and almost a dead ringer for my first car I had in High School. I passed on it. Six months later it was forsale in Lakeland. It was the exact same car (I compared the photos. Same original dealer emblem on the trunk, same options) that was now detailed to show quality. I was drooling. Unfortunately they added 10 grand to the asking price. So it is all about presentation sometimes.

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

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    Hello first of all give thanks for help on the subject, here I posted some extra photos. The photo on the front is just like me i found it.
    I have the number Body by Fisher that what I read on the internet appears to be rare. The Body by Fisher is 6CD47FWD .... Anyone know what could it mean?

    Would there be any way to know if a eldeora original? The company still exists to ask if I could say something? Thank you very much and greetings

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    I forgot the photo of the front such as me i found it!

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    Re: Coupe Deville '74 Eldeora

    Sorry to say, but I don't think that car is an elDeora. The roof is a standard production type. The power sunroof was a factory option as well. The interior looks to be stock original too. The hood does not have an added Chrome grille cap. The doors do not have the extra vinyl padding on the exterior tops that the elDeora package included. The only odd feature is that extra chrome on the rear wheel opening skirt. Which is not on any other part of the car. Somehow that eldeora emblem was with the car.

    Here is a photo from the 74 sales catalog. The top shows the half top on your car. The bottom shows the car with a full top.



    Below: a photo of one that color in Paris.




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