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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; I figured I'd finally start a thread on my 1986 fleetwood brougham project car. For those of you who don't ...
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    my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    I figured I'd finally start a thread on my 1986 fleetwood brougham project car. For those of you who don't know the backstory on this car (or forgot), keep reading.
    In April of 2010, I decided to look for a V8 RWD mid size or full size car for my first car. After finding nothing but lemons on craigslist, I finally found a good one. I was at my mechancis shop with my dad because he needed to pay the mechanic for work on his wagon. When we pulled in, I noticed an old tan cadillac sitting on the parking lot. Wen I was talking to the mechanic, I mentioned something about how I liked that old tan caddy on the lot. Well, the owner walked up behind me and said "so you like my car?" I said yes, to which he replied "you wanna buy it?" I laughed, figuring he was joking. My mechanic then said, "no, he's seriously selling it." I asked him how much and he said $1500, which was within my $2000 budget. I looked it over and figured it was worth it (it had some body damage and reeked of cigarettes, but it looked nice). He told me that the car belonged to his boss' mom, who was the original owner (she was 90 when he bought it, so she would have been 67 or so when she bought it new). He said that his car died, and his boss sold him the car because his mom hadn't driven it in 5 or 10 years and he needed transportation to get to work. It did burn alot of oil thanks to the leaking valve covers. The niece of the owner and my dad met the next day to buy the car (since both of us were busy) and my dad paid $1500 for it. the leftover money went towards plating the car and fixing the severely leaking head gaskets and missing exhaust pipe.
    I then spent a few weekends cleaning the interior to make it smell less like a nasty bowling alley and cleaned off a couple years worth of dirt off the body.
    pics right after I got it. Oddly, despite the rust on the doors, the body is clean.






    I originally bought the car with the thought of getting cheap reliable transportation to take me to and from college. I had no plans of fixing it up or keeping it for anywhere past a year or 2. Then I got attached to it. In december of 2010, I was sideswiped by an old lady in a malibu, and the impact blew the headgasket on the left cylinder bank. I already had a couple grand into fixing pretty much everything that goes wrong on these old cars (well, everything except the shocks), so I parked it while I saved up to do a drivetrain swap (which I was planning on anyways).
    this is what happens when an old lady in a 90s malibu changed lanes across your front end. I don't have a pic, but her drivers side rear door was caved in 3 inches.

    Fast forward 1.5 years, and I had bought a set of bravada buckets for it. not bad for $42 + $3 of goop to clean them (matching console was an additional $15)


    I also started treating the rust on the car. Paint hides alot of damage.
    I left the rust holes (treated the rust with naval jelly and duplicolor rust converter in a can) and have had 0 problems with the door holding water anymore.




    Thanks to the local junkyard, I also picked up some clear front signal lights, fillers, and audio equipment for my car (spend $40 or $50 total).
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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread



    Since then, I have also picked up a set of rear fillers for a whopping $30 (for all 4 and an extra left filler)

    After buying a dud engine from my neighbor for $350 (and subsequently returning said engine for a refund), I picked up a new motor for $650, in the form of a clapped out 1987 silverado slathered in bondo

    when I first came to the shop that had the truck, I was very leery about the condition of the truck (which was owned by the owner of the shop (named cheapie's used tires). ...yeah, that seems totally safe and not shady at all

    the truck actually died during test drive when my dad turned it off to change fuel tanks and couldn't get it to refire. The worker who was selling the truck drove down with his truck, swapped batteries, fired up the silverado, and switched the batteries back. Aside from the burnt out trans (due to a shoddy rebuild), and a slightly leaking valve cover, the test drive went smoothly and I was able to drive the truck an hour and a half back home.

    aside from modifying the drivers side motor mount bracket to allow the motor to drop down 2 inches, the motor fit right in.
    old motor out

    new motor in

    I then ran into a problem with the (new) transmission
    it leaked

    thankfully the transmission company took it back and sent out another one for free. total delay was about 2 weeks (including installing the new trans) due to shipping.
    I also picked up another center console for the caddy. It was ugly as is, but it had potential under the dirt and finish (or lack thereof).
    donor vehicle:





    mockup

    which leads me up to this week, when the drivetrain installation was completed and it was fired for the first time by me (video and pics to come later)

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Wow! Good luck on the continuing project!

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Love me a project thread.

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    well, theres still exhaust system, body work and paint, rims, console, stereo system, suspension, and some other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting, so I should have enough to last me for a while.

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    more console pics









    and firing up the 350
    note: crank the volume if you want the real experienced
    I highly recommend turning down your volume though, as the car is incredibly loud. I imagine it's what a dragster sounds like.
    sorry my hand kept getting in the way, but I'm left handed

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    I like the way that center console is heading. Engine bay looks super clean compared to mine, where are the wires? You never said anything about ceramic covered headers...

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Wow, great posts!!! Keep em coming, I'm subscribing.

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Quote Originally Posted by csbuckn View Post
    I like the way that center console is heading. Engine bay looks super clean compared to mine, where are the wires? You never said anything about ceramic covered headers...
    thanks. I like the console. So far, I spent $5 on the actual console, $12 on the stain, $5 on brushes and tack cloth, and $8 on sanding pads for the mouse.

    Which wires? I haven't looked under the hood that much.

    Oddly, I've never cleaned the engine bay, and my mechanic didn't really clean the engine (they wiped down the intake prior to installation to get off 8 years of coal dust and the valve covers since they had oil residue on them.

    and I swore I said I got ceramic coated headers. I wasnt going to get the normal ones and have them rot in a couple years (same reason I got stainless exhaust)





    also, in case you didn't notice, I need a different fan shroud. LOL

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Yea, the shroud will have to come off a 90-92 sbc powered brougham. The cleanliness I was talking about was that there was no wires under the hood in the one pic of the new motor sitting in it. Might as well start making my center console while your at it...lol.

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Quote Originally Posted by csbuckn View Post
    Yea, the shroud will have to come off a 90-92 sbc powered brougham. The cleanliness I was talking about was that there was no wires under the hood in the one pic of the new motor sitting in it. Might as well start making my center console while your at it...lol.
    that was when the motor was first test fit in. no carb, no exhaust, no distributor.

    As for the center console, find a 1990 explorer conversions chevy suburban console and go from there. It took me many many afternoons of work on that to get it to look acceptable.
    I first removed the cupholders and tape holder, then used murphys oil soap and a sponge to wipe it down. Sludge started rolling off it. I then hit it with the B+D mouse and a pack of diablo mouse pads. Worked far better than the norton pads (norton sandpaper sucks majorly, FWIW)
    I did not take off all the stain on the routed edge. I lightly used the mouse to knock off the majority of the stain (what was left of it) where I could and stained over what I didn't want to remove (for fear of damaging the routed edge)

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    I was wondering if I could extend my current fan shroud with sheetmetal until I find a 90-92 sbc powered brougham shroud

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    Theres a 92 Brougham in the yard by me. You want me to grab the shroud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleetwood472
    Theres a 92 Brougham in the yard by me. You want me to grab the shroud?
    How much?
    Also, you want the DoD pieces from that V864 eldo? Oddly, the yard left it when they crushed the cars in that row. Must not have enough off it yet.

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    I ended up returning the polyshades. It was not good. The finish was poor.
    I bought minwax stain (sedona red) and polyurethane instead. We'll see how that goes.

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    Re: my 86 FWB 350 project ("hooptielac") thread

    This is an awesome thread! Keep up the great work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjs182004
    This is an awesome thread! Keep up the great work!
    Thanks. Hopefully when I'm done, I'll end up with an awesome car.

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