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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by CadillacPimpinNOLA Its really hard to tow a car on the frame and kinda stands out. I always ...
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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacPimpinNOLA View Post
    Its really hard to tow a car on the frame and kinda stands out.
    I always just figured the best way was to have a car that was bigger than the tow trucks.

    I think you've got a good setup with the alarm. Unless your car gets stolen frequently and is too hard to find on it's own, I can't imagine needing to be able to track it by GPS and if at meets that criteria, it is most likely an eighties TOYOTA Crayola that is worth less than the GPS to start with.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    I think you've got a good setup with the alarm. Unless your car gets stolen frequently and is too hard to find on it's own, I can't imagine needing to be able to track it by GPS and if at meets that criteria, it is most likely an eighties TOYOTA Crayola that is worth less than the GPS to start with.
    It's a good setup for when you're in range of the vehicle, but who's within a mile of their vehicle all the time? And that mile radius is often hindered by obstructions like walls and trees, so you're really only looking at about 1/2 a mile radius with our old versions. So it doesn't hurt to have both.

    Plus, the ability to track by GPS goes farther than unfortunate theft.

    I'm sure you've seen apps that keep track of your parking meter time and use GPS to show you where you parked.

    But the Viper GPS goes beyond remembering a set spot like the phone apps. Perhaps you lend your vehicle to a friend or family member, maybe a son or daughter, who says they want to go to the 7-11 and they'll be right back. Instead of wondering what's taking so long, or why all your gas is gone, or wondering why your odometer added 100 miles when 7-11 is right around the corner, you can simply watch their trip in progress.

    Maybe you're going out of town or out of the country and you want to keep an eye on your car. One of my buddies parked his '09 Ext in a very nice neighborhood and went to Vegas, only to return to a missing car that was never found. Can't count how many times he's told me that he wished he had GPS tracking on it, even though he got the insurance money for it.

    Maybe you let your wife or kids use the car for the day and you gave them the responsibility of picking you up from work when you get off. Instead of wondering their ETA or calling and texting them to ask if they're close, just watch it on the screen.

    But even if you didn't use the GPS often, that's not a good reason to not have it. Most of us have car insurance but we never get in accidents. And even when we do get in accidents we prefer to pay out of pocket instead of going through the insurance companies. In that case we only have insurance to satisfy legal requirements. We wouldn't say unless our cars are crashed frequently we couldn't imagine why car insurance is needed. We need it just in case, even if nothing ever happens.

    And most insurance companies will give you a really good discount for having GPS tracking, also.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    The last company I worked for we had over 100 vehicles and about 125 pieces of construction equipment. In 2005 we had a machine valued at about $150,000 stolen from a job site. We had it recovered 2 months later out of pure luck. The owner decided beings we had all of vehicles GPS, do the Lojack thing on the equipment. About 15 times a piece of equipment was stolen over a period of 7 years, ranging in value of $4,000 and up. Each time they were recovered with the last time the guy was chased down about a half mile and had a piece on him. I just called the theft in, gave them the vin and they took it from there. The GPS on the trucks was nice because we knew where the guys were, how long they sat out on the jobsite chugging down beer after work and where the truck was impounded when they got hauled it. They were also setup so an alert was sent via email if it wasn't parked overnight where it should have been. Nobody likes big brother watching over them, but when you have an investment that big, you can't afford to loose that much especially when the deductable was through the roof. Insurance companies don't pay shit when it all comes down to what you get as opposed to what you pay. We more than got our moneys worth from GPS and Lojack, they pretty much paid for themselves. The GPS were about 35 bucks a month with 10 minute updates. Got pretty pricey with all of those vehicles, but it paid off in the end. If I was investing what Pimpanola is in his ride, I'd damn sure have it covered with some kind of backup. Wheels tires, stereo, and everything else....Lotta money.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    Quote Originally Posted by beatz02 View Post
    I'm sure you've seen apps that keep track of your parking meter time and use GPS to show you where you parked.

    Perhaps you lend your vehicle to a friend or family member, maybe a son or daughter, who says they want to go to the 7-11 and they'll be right back. Instead of wondering what's taking so long, or why all your gas is gone, or wondering why your odometer added 100 miles when 7-11 is right around the corner, you can simply watch their trip in progress.

    Maybe you're going out of town or out of the country and you want to keep an eye on your car. One of my buddies parked his '09 Ext in a very nice neighborhood and went to Vegas, only to return to a missing car that was never found.

    Maybe you let your wife or kids use the car for the day and you gave them the responsibility of picking you up from work when you get off. Instead of wondering their ETA or calling and texting them to ask if they're close, just watch it on the screen.
    Situation 1) Don't worry about Parking Meters. Similarly to the West coast, the Orlando area does not care where I park my Cadillac or which toll booth I just went through. They presume I have a reason.

    Situation 2) Friends and family members don't get my cars, if they did, they would get the Expedition. It gets [comparatively] excellent mileage compared to my other cars which average less than 6 MPG, the chances of me needing it are slim, so they can keep it all day and since it has made 140,000 miles so far with nothing but regular oil changes and runs like the day I got it, I don't think I'd care or notice if it had 100 extra miles on it. besides, who would have "friends" like that.

    Situation 3) Go to the one of the larger banks, ask what the smallest loan you can take out is, usually between $5-7k. Take the loan with no credit, leave the car as collateral, which will be parked in their company garage, which will be fitted with cameras, have on duty security and only let bank employees in to park there. Return days later, return the cash, pay the few dollars interest and viola. Cheap-as-free parking and the security of knowing your car will be there when you come back. Alternatively, take your car with you. Every time I am in Vegas (At least one week out of every second month) I wish I had my car with me, though I get some badass cars borrowed through an associate out that way, I would still prefer my own.

    I am just not seeing practical reasons for GPS in my personal situation.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    Thats a lot of nails, how many watts are you pushing?

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    Quote Originally Posted by dennis93coupe View Post
    The GPS were about 35 bucks a month with 10 minute updates. Got pretty pricey with all of those vehicles, but it paid off in the end. If I was investing what Pimpanola is in his ride, I'd damn sure have it covered with some kind of backup. Wheels tires, stereo, and everything else....Lotta money.
    My sentiments exact. Sometimes it's just not enough to get the money when you put so much work into a project and have to do it all over again.

    And in your case, I agree that companies having them on company vehicles seems to be the most practical situation for GPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    Situation 1) Don't worry about Parking Meters. Similarly to the West coast, the Orlando area does not care where I park my Cadillac or which toll booth I just went through. They presume I have a reason.
    Ehh.. That's a little shady. Almost equivalent to a cop using his squad car on his days off to blow through red lights..lol, or to park in no-parking zones just to run to an ATM..

    I think if I had a hearse, for my own ethical reasons, if I wasn't providing service I'd pay for my parking and tolls and utilize my Smartstart features.

    Reminds me of the guy who got arrested for using the carpool lane, since his passenger was a mannequin..haha. I guess it's cool for a season until that one cop or parking attendant gets curious.

    Unless of course you're always on business and the law provides that you do not have to pay for parking or tolls; in that case the parking meter feature would be useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    besides, who would have "friends" like that.
    Family, friends, employees, etc.. as they say, there's one in every family. And that was just an example.

    You can also be notified if the vehicle exceeds a speed you told your kids or employees not to exceed. Lets say you arbitrarily decide to set a limit at 65mph for yourself and head across town; you get pulled over by CHP who says they clocked you at 75, but you never received the notification so you might have some basis in court to argue that the officers radar gun needs to be calibrated..

    You could also use the Hotspot feature to be alerted when the vehicle enters an area you forbid the driver from entering.. just examples.

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    Situation 3) Go to the one of the larger banks, ask what the smallest loan you can take out is, usually between $5-7k. Take the loan with no credit, leave the car as collateral, which will be parked in their company garage, which will be fitted with cameras, have on duty security and only let bank employees in to park there. Return days later, return the cash, pay the few dollars interest and viola.
    If anything's more extravagant than simply using GPS, it's this idea.. All the paperwork, adding an inquiry to your credit report every month you go to Vegas (not you, but people who do go every month), being declined if you have bad credit, etc. or simply press a button on your phone?

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    I am just not seeing practical reasons for GPS in my personal situation.
    I feel you, and to each his own. Just don't understand why you fixated on the GPS feature when there's two versions of the alarm, one with GPS and one without. If someone doesn't have a need for GPS they can get the regular version, which is cheaper and still far superior to a regular remote alarm.

    Sorry for derailing your build, Nola! lol..

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    in the future I may look into it, but right now im rarely far from it and when I go out I usually valet at the casino and know everyone there...

    as for the screws, not nails, theres alot and for the subs each sub will be getting roughly 1,700 watts. so about 3,400 total


    want to get some work done but again its raining and get MDF wet enough it expands about 6 times its size...I never want to build a box like one this for a long, long time...Its glued, screwed and ready for the next step.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    I don't actually park where there they charge me and for the most part, I am never on toll roads. However if I chose to I could do it. That however does not mean that I actually do. Get a handicapped plate and never have parking woes again. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacPimpinNOLA View Post
    roughly 1,700 watts. so about 3,400 total.
    The types of numbers I like to hear on projects like this.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    and thats real power on a 12 volt sysem, not PEAK 5,000 like some products claim where using there amps you need a nuclear reactor to get that power.

    i drug the box outside, threw it on a stand to work on it and the rain started again, so inside it went again...however I did cut the box up inside the house, yes i cut it up, a circular saw and jigsaw makes a mess inside...lesson known but learned again...then i went and had a few drinks, ready for bed now

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    ^I built my amp racks and one of my battery boxes inside, because it started to rain and at the time, I lacked the room in my now spacious and vast garage.

    It makes a mess...but it's totally worth it.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    yep, im not exactly proud of the cuts i made, I was rushing and didnt have much light, but its not to much of an issue...

    if you were looking at the box and wondering, how will you get it in and out since the back is higher than the trunk rods...well i had a plan all along. its not done but its getting there...I cut the top back part of the box off. now the main big box will have an MDF lip all around, maybe put a gasket on to prevent air leaks...Ill have someone hold the small top section cut off from inside the car through the back deck, then I will slide the big box into place. from the inside of the box i will screw it all together so its one complete box again...with or without the airtank in the way, it would be impossible for someone to take the box out

    got a line ready to cut


    across the back side, trimmed the sides, need to trim the top of the back board now and sand them smooth


    top cut off


    big box, topless


    box on its side but stood the pieces together



    need a circle jig now for the sub cutouts, if I dont buy one this weekend a co-worker will have me one monday

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    There you go. Now measure the dimensions, make 10 boxes and sell them on LIL for 200 each.

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    i really dont want to build another box like this again. for a long long time

    got out today, managed to get the lower half box in the trunk... the driverside theres some metal on the bottom side of the rear deck. i can sand the box or trim the metal but either way I have to do something to get the box in...then it started to sprinkle so I put it up again...



    that open square is the problem, just on one side


    pulled the box out and just sitting there, i still need to trim the upper corners for the trunk frame so i can close the trunk without hitting the box

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    didnt have the sander home but did have the dremel tool so , square be gone



    corners cut off, sides sit flush with the rest of the dash

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    Re: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

    start off with saturday pictures, i cleaned the car up to ride this weekend since it rained alot the previous week, saturday i took the pics, shiny and looking good, right after that all the time and effort cleaning it went down the drain b/c it started storming


    shiny wheel and tire with the new gorilla locks


    then this, so no wirk got down, plus I have a cold and had a hangover so it worked out ok


    got out today around lunch time, found a new use for my rims, hold the wire nicely out my way instead of one the ground


    pulled the rear seat to run the wires to the bag for the air gauge, also ran some bass control and sound processor wires, those arent exactly where i need them right now, also ran out of zipties...you can see here where that box got relocated under the rear dash


    now that i relieved the metal that was holding me up, i put the box in and now its hitting the sides of the box at the top preventing me from going all the way in, about 1/2" to go, so i pulled it out and ground the edges but i didnt try fitting it again. ill do that tomorrow.

    the way i cut the front baffle board to be bigger than the rear board was to fit in the trunk a certain way. after cutting the reliefs for the decklid to come down, it was hitting that first board closer to the center, so I just cut it flush with the back board


    put everything back together for now

    went inside and measured the box for the lip to secure the 2 peices, cut some 1.5" mdf strips out of 3/4MDF, secured them, then removed, glued and added extra screws to make it permanent




    you can see the lip, once in the car ill screw the box together from the inside

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