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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; It has been fun watching your progress. I can't imagine how much patience you have to restore an old Cadillac ...
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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    It has been fun watching your progress. I can't imagine how much patience you have to restore an old Cadillac outside of the US! By the way, how much is gas where you are? In south Florida, today regular was $3.53.

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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    Thanks so much Looking for parts is enormously easier in the Internet era, just somewhat more expensive due to shipping cost -but quite cheaper than parts for other classics, like the German ones-. Finding someone who dare to repair these cars is not easy to find here but I did, and in addition Internet -and specially this forum- helps a lot to get information about my caddy. Thereīs still a good deal of fixings to do but when I park the car in the street, everyone is amazed looking at it and asking a lot of questions. Last Saturday, I took it to my brotherīs wedding and it became the star of the event

    Gas is the worst part of it: Regular is $ 1.93 a liter, so for a gallon it would be $ 7.30 (70% are taxes). When I fill the tank, I use to pay $ 135-140. Itīs hard but no complain as Iīm really happy driving this beast

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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    Jesus, $7.30 a gallon?

    I will never again complain about $3.40

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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Stingroo View Post
    Jesus, $7.30 a gallon?

    I will never again complain about $3.40
    In addition average salary in Spain is $ 30,745 a year while in U.S. is $ 46,300. We are also below European average ($ 38,700). Maybe for that reason our regular gas prices are under the European average ($ 8.00 a gallon)

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    Note to self: do not move to Spain.
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    Well, at least if you retire with a good pension is a splendid place to live. Thatīs what many aged people from U.K., Germany, Sweden, France... think

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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    Gorgeous car! This thread made me take my 79 to the mechanic as she too has been sitting alone for years and there are some things i dont know how to fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spillin View Post
    Gorgeous car! This thread made me take my 79 to the mechanic as she too has been sitting alone for years and there are some things i dont know how to fix
    Thanx I prefer taking the car to a specialist for important things and do it by myself for details. Maybe if I had a place to work near home I would have done more things by myself. If you have such a place home and get a Factory Service Manual and a good set of tools you may save some money. You can always get good support from this forum. When a car has been so many years stopped you must check everything that can deteriorate with time (pay special attention to steering and brakes for your safety). If you have no great experience in mechanics itīs a good idea having a trustworthy professional check all relevant points of the car so you have an exact idea of what you will need to do and writing down a list of priorities to start your restoration process.

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    Some update on the steering wheel restoration: Finally I took plastic cover out from black plastic base. It was a pain as the semi-transparent cover has a "T" section, with the T leg stuck on the base. Finally I ripped off the cover though a part of the vertical part of it kept in the groove. I cut it as much as possible to prevent it hindering wood mounting on cover housing. This is a pic of the last part of the ripping process:


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    This is a detail of the groove on black plastic base where wood should be mounted. Iīll try to get the same kind than the one on '69 wheel but real stuff instead of imitation:


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    This is a detail of one little part of the plastic cover I could take out without ripping it. I could take it out easily as black plastic was somewhat rotten:


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    Next stage of process was filling cracks with a repairing paste (Pattex). It serves for everything: plastic, wood, metal, ceramics... It consists of 2 components. When you mix both it starts to harden and in 5 minutes itīs totally hard. First you fill the crack or the gap, wait until it hardens enough to sand it with a sandpaper. Itīs better waiting 1/2 hour at least or maybe you can take out the paste. For small cracks or superficial holes you must be specially careful as itīs easier this happens. These pics show all cracks filled:


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    The paste wouldnīt work with superficial cracks. I hope when I paint the rim in glossy black they are covered (or almost). This stuff tends to crumble due to sun exposure. Next week I want to take it to the wood restorer as it is. When wood is mounted and clear coat applied Iīll paint rim in black. Otherwise, paint could easily be damaged. This is one of the weak points of resto. Original plastic was noticeably more resistant to scratches. Another weak point is paste could fall with a hit though when paint is applied this will be less probable. Letīs see how the wood restorer can work on the groove. I suppose sheīll have to apply some filling under the wood sheet.

    I bought a crest for the wheel on Ebay but when I received points of the crown were broken. The seller was -As thank God most sellers- as honest as to refund me all I paid so I rebuilt it patiently with contact glue and painted crown points. The result is not bad (could be better if white paint was not half dry):


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    I thought the crest was made of metal but found that itīs plastic. I think the original is metallic; my crest was advertised as coming from a '68 Anyway, I think itīs not too bad to be a present

    Thatīs all for now. Iīve been working on the '70 rear bumper moldings I received, which I want to use to substitute the truck tail lights the car has now on its bumper. Iīll post some info and pics in the next days.

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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    Wow, that filler stuff for the wheel is definitely interesting....

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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    The bulk of the price of gas in the US, Canada, Europe and Japan is taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stingroo View Post
    Wow, that filler stuff for the wheel is definitely interesting....
    Yeah, I think itīs not for sale in U.S. but Iīm sure there must be something equivalent. Itīs a bar. One component in the center and the other around. You can cut a slice and mix it with your hands. I was not sure at first but now Iīm happy with the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBodyFan View Post
    The bulk of the price of gas in the US, Canada, Europe and Japan is taxes.
    Yes, you can take the price in U.S. and compare it with the one in these countries. The difference is practically taxes.

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    Well, after looking for appropriate materials and asking other experts, the wood restorer has come to the conclusion that itīs not possible filling the rim groove with a wood sheet, as the groove is not deep enough to keep it stuck to it. She honestly told me that most likely, wood would get detached from the bakelite or black plastic of the rim and crack the clear coat on the wood, so the results in the long run would not be worth the work this would take and the price to pay, so I will have to put plan B into practice: Filling the groove with my magic paste and after painting the rim, sticking a self-adhesive vinyl wood veneer (like the one I used for the instrument panel), imitating the original one.

    At last, the mechanic had some time to change seals and gaskets of the transmission -Thank goodness-. Oil leak takes replacing cardboards under the car every 15 day and I often find oil under cardboards, on the parking space floor... And of course, adding transmission oil constantly. Today I took him the caddy so he will take the opportunity to install a new wiper/washer motor, change parking brake assembly for another used in good condition (no new stuff available), fix back-up lights, checking blower speed control circuit (I have provided him with a new blower relay, as I think itīs the key for making all speeds of the blower work), and checking the A/C compressor. After tightening the belt, we got it working again but when I reach more than 55 mph, it skids, sometimes making noise and always smelling of burnt rubber. I think we will end up by buying a new one. I doubt repairing the existing one is economical.

    He discovered the cause of the gas smell when accelerating: The fuel tank cap gasket is broken so when tank level is over 1/2, gas was pushed backwards to the filler, in a low position, behind the license plate, so some gas or gas vapor leaked to the tank and from the tank to the passenger compartment. Iīll buy a new tank cap; the old one seems really old and sometimes itīs difficult to open.

    One friend passed me a scanned image of the original sticker of the dealer where this car was bought when new. There is still some slight trace of it on the rear window. I have printed it on a quality paper to create a new sticker that will be in the place of the original one:


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    This dealer kept existing not long ago, but in their last times they didnīt sell GM anymore, but KIA and Ssangyong Now there is a supermarket in this address.

    These last 2 months I have had the caddy in 2 parking spaces near home, what has allowed me to enjoy it most weekends, visiting classic car meetings and causing everyoneīs amazement The most I drive it, the best it runs...
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    Re: 69 Sedan de Ville official restoration thread

    Awesome to hear of some more progress with this thread. I was wondering where you got off to....

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