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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap! in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; What are you all complaining about? Looks like a factory job to me!...
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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    What are you all complaining about? Looks like a factory job to me!

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Matt, You've come a long way! This problem will pass and you'll be driving that beauty in no time!

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Quote Originally Posted by sven914 View Post
    In Ohio, engine mounts are for wusses... I can't tell you how many car's I've worked on where the engine was held up by a board, wedged between it and the chassis, or a length of chain, linking the mounts together or tethering the engine to the firewall.
    hmmm............lol

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    So, does ANYBODY have a clue as to what I can do? Or is a custom driver-side mount in my near future. My friend's dad has an entire machine shop in his barn. Maybe I should have him come out and take a look.
    Judging by the amount of money it looks like you spent on the engine.....go to the parts house and get yourself some olds mounts....if they dont work you can always take them back. from what I know the HT and the olds small block dont mix. The measurement in between mounts wont change unless the frame changes.

    Also, I just helped a friend change motors in a 98 tahoe, a vortec 350 down to a good ole carbed 350. Everything measured out like it was supposed to, but when it came time to bolt it down, NO GO lol. there were metal tabs on the lower mounts that wouldnt let the older block drop in. So, to make a long story short....Get the olds mounts from the store and bolt everything to the motor, including the lower mounts and THEN bolt it to the frame. The rubber inserts in the mounts will give you the play you need to get everything to line up. Let me know how it goes.

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    The engine looks crookered. Maybe it's caught up on something? I'm sure you've already looked around but to me it doesn't look level.

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    ^ Methinks you should examine the pictures more.

    And lol Craig, looks factory to offset the panel gap in the front fenders! Yay Matt!

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Wow Matt, I don't know were I've been but, I just stumbled across this thread. After reading the last 15 pages of posts, I am thrilled to see you taking on this project. Congrats on the progress so far!

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stingroo View Post

    And lol Craig, looks factory to offset the panel gap in the front fenders! Yay Matt!
    Could be what my dad used to call a Friday afternoon/Monday morning car.

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Quote Originally Posted by 77CDV View Post
    Could be what my dad used to call a Friday afternoon/Monday morning car.
    ^Buh?

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    There's nothing wrong with slanted engines propped in place with plywood or bricks, the Lifted Redneck Trucks I see down here are fine examples. For that matter, you don't even have to put the hood back on.

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Quote Originally Posted by csbuckn View Post
    What if you took the frame mounts off, mounted them to the engine mounts, set the engine down correctly and had someone tack weld the frame mounts in there?
    I just got off the phone with my teacher that I borrowed the engine hoist from. He's been in the auto business (the shop end of things) for years and thinks that this will be my most viable option. I just need to get ahold of my friend's dad and see if he can do the welding part of it. So things seem to still be on track, just a bit off-kilter. Thanks guys!

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    Quote Originally Posted by greencadillacmatt View Post
    ^Buh?
    It was a joke between my dad and my Uncle Paul. Uncle Paul worked for Ford for years (though oddly he only drove Cadillacs...go figure). Back when, quality control was, shall we say, lax. Some cars were put together really well, while others...weren't. The one's that were the worst Uncle Paul called "Friday afternoon" or "Monday morning" cars, the joke being that Friday afternoon, the assembly line guys were itching to get out for the weekend and not paying attention to what they were putting together, and on Monday morning, they were so hung over from the weekend they didn't care what they were doing.

    A really well-put-together car was a "Wednesday" car.

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    The world needs more Working-Class-Hero jokes like that.

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    SO? What's the verdict? To Weld or Not to Weld?

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    Re: 1984 Coupe DeVille Engine Swap!

    ^Oh, it'll be welded. This week I'll be positioning the engine and I'll see what I can do to have the mounts welded in. Fortunately I WAS right about the engine length, so the trans fits right where it needs to be. I'll put the bolts in for the trans mounts loosely, and then I can lift the engine and remove (through unbolting or otherwise...) the frame mounts. I can then put my new frame mounts in and have it all welded.

    Sorry I haven't updated in a while. I haven't had the time to work on the car. I've been helping roof our garage, work has been CRAZY busy, and there have been huge storms in between all that.

    On the upshot, I think I'll be scrapping what's left of the Brougham this week or next, and I just sold the rear bumper on ebay. Extra cash is a good thing to have.

    I do have this pic to post. Since the engine is all cast-iron, it is heavier than the HT that it replaced. I think the front end sits just a little bit lower now and has a slight rake to it. I think it makes it look mean.


    Thanks for all the help and for keeping me motivated on the project. You guys rule.

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