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Old 11-05-09, 03:50 PM
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Those vintage style tires are not meant to be driven on. They are made for car shows, and to make vintage cars look year appropriate. The problem with them is that they wear out extremely fast, have poor grip in weather, and aren't as safe at higher vehicle speeds. If your going to go for an expensive, vintage styled tire, you should go all out.



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so you mean to tell me the tires with the 4 inch white walls are crappy?
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so you mean to tell me the tires with the 4 inch white walls are crappy?
Not "crappy." Just not designed to meet all of today's standards. Because they are special use tires, they are designed more to be period correct for the vehicle, which gives the right appearance, but limits the tire design to standards of obsolete technology. Some of them go as far as being produced as Bias Ply (not used in America since 1983*), so that the car can be kept as original as possible.

*except by off road enthusiasts, because of the softer feel during slow driving on hard terrain, and because of their self cleaning ability.
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Not "crappy." Just not designed to meet all of today's standards. Because they are special use tires, they are designed more to be period correct for the vehicle, which gives the right appearance, but limits the tire design to standards of obsolete technology. Some of them go as far as being produced as Bias Ply (not used in America since 1983*), so that the car can be kept as original as possible.

*except by off road enthusiasts, because of the softer feel during slow driving on hard terrain, and because of their self cleaning ability.
well what if you only plan on driving them say... during the summer
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well what if you only plan on driving them say... during the summer
Looking at the ratings, the tires have a high tread wear rating (540) and a traction of B. I don't see a speed rating. Basically they're an 80,000 mile tire with moderate wet traction (at 40mph), and they weren't tested for highway speed.

I was mostly speaking for vintage styled tires in general. Such as these:



which are Coker Bias ply tires, and do comply to UTQG ratings. Other tire companies make vintage tires from original factory molds to make NOS Firestone/Michelin/Goodyear tires, which do not need to be rated.
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From the 50's....



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Re: The official Whitewall thread

SOS pads are the worst thing to use on whitewalls! They get them clean, but leave tiny scratches that collect dirt. You want to use Wetley's Bleche Wite:



I keep two bottles on the detailing rack.

For modern radial WIDE whitewalls, check out BFG Silvertowns:

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^ Those even come in 235/70/15 lol

But they're like $210 per tire, haha.
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Yeah, I know Jay Just thought the advert was neat. I found it by accident.

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I freakin LOVE thick white walls on an old school...
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"I wonder what pressure caddydave was running?"

I toyed with alot of pressure ratings. 35, then 34, then 32, and then 30. Each time, the tires got alittle better, but never to the extent of the comfort I get now on my new brigstones. I swear, the car is completely different with these new tires. Of course, i did have two sizes too big on my car. Everyone told me to put 235's on there, but man oh man, way too clunky looking. I loved the bigger white wall, but actually, im really enjoying the new ones' smaller size. 3/4 inch WW on 215/70r15 Brigstone Insignia se's. The car sits a lil lower due to the 70 series, but the width makes all the difference. I have excellent traction, and body lean went down dramatically., I can really hit corners now like never before. Do to price matching, I got them for around 60 dollars a piece! Highly recommended tire if you dont mind the smaller white wall.
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Here's a set of Runway Enduro 75s on a Caprice. These are the tires I bought for my coupe. There might be better tires out there, but for the look vs price, I don't think they can be beat.
I just put a set of them on my '81 brougham today since I got a flat in one of my Royal Seals. They were on my '95 sdv and I love the look, they handle pretty decent too. I traded my lowrider bike for them, they also came off a caprice.
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Re: The official Whitewall thread

MUSTARD AND MAYONNAISE WHITEWALL APPRECIATION SONG!!

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The only parts of that song I understood where when he explained what it meant to the kid, when they screamed MUSTARD AND MAYONNAISE, and I'm pretty sure I heard Cadillacs in there a few times... and 22's.

Otherwise, you lost me, and I need an excedrin ASAP.
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The only parts of that song I understood where when he explained what it meant to the kid, when they screamed MUSTARD AND MAYONNAISE, and I'm pretty sure I heard Cadillacs in there a few times... and 22's.

Otherwise, you lost me, and I need an excedrin ASAP.
lmao

Thats because that's E-40. 95% of the rap game doesn't even know what he's saying.

heres the lyrics

And thats a tight beat too...


*Throw me a bone and some crumbs watch me turn it over and flip it
Ballatician, man, ballaholic I'm ballerific
Stop and listen give me yo undivided attention
40 talk like E.F. Hutton... shhhh, people listen
Man that boy there right there be clownin he do the foo!
Hustle Charlie water that playa there hella coo!
Often imitated but never dismemblicated
Kilo grams of coke and that broccoli I used to weigh it
Smokin' Ahfganny in the candy blue drop the mail
On my way to Richmond to buy me some new apparel
Bendin' corners, gettin' it quick and talkin bout lookin'
"There go fonzerelli I'm feelin that mans music"
Won't you quit that shit you be talkin, its big spit
Later for them suckas they tardy they ain't hit
Disobeying ???? from you ??? don't let her see
Get you're wonder bread pepperoni watch it increase

[Chorus x2]
Mustard and Mayonnaise! Tennis shoes,
lowenheart, drivers lorenzos, 22's
Big bread, big spread, big scratch,big cars, turf hogs, Cadillacs

Watchout ersky perky it's seldom you see me thirsty
Gatorade bottle full of Burgundy Carlos Rossy
Lift yo head high, we might take you up out yo body
Me and my mossy mother****ers life of the party
[ Find more Lyrics on www.mp3lyrics.org/OeY ]
Give it to me baby you know what I'm lookin fo'
A super ghetto hoe, big ol' ass like J-Lo
Club packed, like a Detroit hair show
Dug that, she can teach the wind how to blow
She can teach frosty how to snow, right, glow
in the dark lay, night, fireworks, sparklight, ALL-night
Ride her like Olympic style tour de' france bike
Brand new upholstery, flambostly out wit the fellas
In the hotel lobby wit honey gettin jealous
Ain't nobody trippin', but patna, he outta line
Spray myself with sucker-repellent pulled out my nine

[Chorus x2]

I got a shortage of supply and demand when its drought
Buy low, sell high, my marble route
Know about the weather before its about to change
My repo, they distribute, they repo be drivin planes
Watch out for them folks and them K-9's sniffin them thangs
Bricks, kicks, hittin MC's and door panels man
I run my game from Frisco to Maine, pimpin long range
Fast quarter **** a slow nickel thats chump change
Place your order, high yellow jazzy, light bright and almost like
Chocolate trailer trashy mcnasty throw away but now she's classy
Cuz her sugar daddy done put her up in the sink
Washed her up got her dressed in hot pink in mink

[Chorus x2]

Gotta ride on vogues when we fly by
Underlay ??? Bonita bye bye
Mustard and mayonnaise smokin up at the sky light
You can't touch my vogues baby bye bye..*
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