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1985-1996 Fleetwood and Brougham Forum Discussion, The official Whitewall thread in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Depends on the car and what's done to it. If a Ford is sitting low, it still means blown shocks....
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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Depends on the car and what's done to it.


    If a Ford is sitting low, it still means blown shocks.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    There is no accounting for taste, but like I said, back before the fad of lowering cars, that's what it meant... worn out, sickly and saggy.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Just curious, since I wasn't around, but weren't air bags popular "back in the day"?

    Bagged cars (well, some cars; mostly big 40s and 50s iron) are gorgeous to behold, IMO.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Stingroo View Post
    Just curious, since I wasn't around, but weren't air bags popular "back in the day"?

    Bagged cars (well, some cars; mostly big 40s and 50s iron) are gorgeous to behold, IMO.
    I guess my "day", (at least in terms of "coming of age") would have been the mid 1980's-early 1990's. The only car mods I really remember seeing was actually jacking up the rear end of muscle cars and installing Cragar mag wheels... Of course I grew up in Maine and it took about 5-10 years for fads to reach us.

    When you mention "air bags" the first thing that comes to my mind is the air ride Cadillac used in 1959-1960. All 4 corners were supported by big thick rubber air bags from factory... no springs at all! And when the bags went bad or a line developed a leak the car would sit down like a "bagged" car does today... Only back then, your Cadillac laying down was something you NEVER wanted to see because that meant you had big, expensive suspension problems (think 1980's Lincoln Continental). The air ride system was supposed to stay inflated for a long time, like days... even with the car shut off.

    It's funny, when I was growing up Cadillacs were generallly considered to be old fart cars... And since I was an odd ball young fart anyway, I loved them... "I loved Caddys when loving Caddys wasn't cool"... LOL. I was actually very surprised when Cadillacs began to become popular with young people in the late 1990's.

    I think it's a great thing that young people can appreciate the older Caddys. It keeps them around... But I have to admit, I do cringe when I see one modified at all. I guess I am a purist. I figure it's enough of a challenge keeping them like the were.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    I saw this old mid sixties chevy pickup today. Lowered with wide whites. Went over to see what tires they were. Enduro 706! Google search revealed they're basically a 70 series version of the Enduro 75, but I haven't seen a 235 listed, only a 225 and below. Now, they're available in a white wall according to my search, but it was hard to tell if the ones on the truck weren't just shaved in or not. They were recessed instead of raised, but from the looks of the tire, if they were shaved, it was an amazing job. No irregularities or bad scuff marks that I could tell. If I can find a good source for them, I think I'll get a set and maybe some 7 inch rims since I like having a wider tire, and even a 225/70 is slightly wider than a 235/75 from what I've read.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    225/70 is slightly wider than a 235/75 from what I've read.
    You have it backwards. The first number is the tread width in mm. The second number is the sidewall height, expressed as a percentage of tread width. The 225/70 will be narrower and shorter than the 235/75.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    I need tires real bad. The Sears tires on mine are dryrot from being used for 5,000 over ten years. Yesterday I saw some low prices at
    Walmart for a set of four installed for $343. I think they were Dunlop tires? I checked the web site but did not see them there. The used
    tire shops around my area are always sold out on 15 inch tires.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Here are a couple of sites that have whitewalls:

    http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

    http://www.tiresavings.com/

    Good luck!

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jayoldschool View Post
    You have it backwards. The first number is the tread width in mm. The second number is the sidewall height, expressed as a percentage of tread width. The 225/70 will be narrower and shorter than the 235/75.
    Well I know that's how it should be, but a site I was looking at listed the tread width of a 225/70 as wider than both a 225/75, and a 235/75. Here's the chart:
    http://www.angelfire.com/on/geebjen/tires.html
    Per series, the larger section widths make a wider tread, but it shows all section widths producing a wider tread as you go down in aspect ratio. I suppose it's not an accurate chart.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    There is variation between manufacturers, of course.

    Back OT, I just got back from the Hollywood, FL St. Patrick's parade. Lead off by a stunning Lincoln Continental convertible in light blue, wearing Runway Enduro 75s. Looked perfect.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    what year?

    Quote Originally Posted by jayoldschool View Post
    There is variation between manufacturers, of course.

    Back OT, I just got back from the Hollywood, FL St. Patrick's parade. Lead off by a stunning Lincoln Continental convertible in light blue, wearing Runway Enduro 75s. Looked perfect.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Pretty sure it was a 66. For sale, too. I told my mother she should buy it

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Wow, beautiful car!

    But for me, it's gotta be Triple Black!

    Quote Originally Posted by jayoldschool View Post
    Pretty sure it was a 66. For sale, too. I told my mother she should buy it


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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Anybody tried the Hankook Optimo H724?

    I guess the Enduro 706s I saw were shaved in, as Tire Factory says it's only a blackwall.

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    Re: The official Whitewall thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrisworld View Post
    Anybody tried the Hankook Optimo H724?

    I guess the Enduro 706s I saw were shaved in, as Tire Factory says it's only a blackwall.
    But you can only shave a narrow whitewall into a wider whitewall, you can not shave a blackwall into whitewall. There has to be some white rubber to begin with.

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