Build: Cadillac 500cid - Page 2

csbuckn · #16 (**permalink**) 07-02-09, 01:06 AM

Sorry about that...

So would an oil pan from a 77-79 deville work or is it just 80-81? Right now it has a mid-sump pan.

**jayoldschool** · #17 (**permalink**) 07-02-09, 11:22 AM

Believe it has to be the 80 and up 368 pan. You could get the 368 until 85 in commercial chassis, as well.

cadillac_al · #18 (**permalink**) 07-03-09, 12:43 AM

I always heard the 77-79 425 pan and pick-up would work. Try a search on that because I'm sure I've read it several times.

csbuckn · #19 (**permalink**) 07-03-09, 11:44 AM

Does anybody know where to get motor mounts for an 80 brougham/deville? New or used? I cant find them anywhere and theres no part cars around yet. Maybe someone here has a dead 368.

82CDV · #20 (**permalink**) 07-03-09, 11:44 AM

Might want to talk with this guy...

http://www.mcsmk8.com/80CAD-500/MAVICA.HTM

Slacker · #21 (**permalink**) 07-03-09, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by csbuckn

Does anybody know where to get motor mounts for an 80 brougham/deville? New or used? I cant find them anywhere and theres no part cars around yet. Maybe someone here has a dead 368.

www.rockauto.com looks like them have them.

csbuckn · #22 (**permalink**) 07-03-09, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Slacker

www.rockauto.com looks like them have them.

I think I need the ones that are on the engine, not the ones on the frame. Are they called something different? MTS didnt answer the phone.

cadillac_al · #23 (**permalink**) 07-05-09, 08:06 PM

I have been having a hard time to find engine mounts too. All the parts places have the frame mounts listed as motor mounts but no actual engine mounts. Every Google search brings up hundreds of frame mounts but no engine mounts. I don't know what else they would be called.

csbuckn · #24 (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 02:08 AM

So I got a parts car, 77 deville. The motor mounts look good. The oil pan looks like it will fit. Would the pass exhaust manifold work without any mods to the control arm? They look the same though. Also, I couldnt find the SPID codes on the trunk, are they somewhere else? I'm trying to see what gears are in the rear.

drmenard · #25 (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 12:27 PM

Your 77 rear end has 2.28 gears.. unless it has the towing package.. then it has 2.73's.....does it have disc brakes in the rear? the only rear I found with discs in the rear was a posi...almost every part you will need to put that 500 in that 90 FWB can be taken off that 77....

csbuckn · #26 (**permalink**) 07-15-09, 12:17 PM

I'm trying to figure out what tranny is in the 77, did it come with options or just a 400.

cadillac_al · #27 (**permalink**) 07-15-09, 11:19 PM

th400

**jayoldschool** · #28 (**permalink**) 07-18-09, 10:01 PM

Devilles got rear drums. Fleetwood Brougham got discs in 77-79.

csbuckn · #29 (**permalink**) 07-28-09, 01:53 AM

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got the 425 out. didnt even mess up the front bumper like I planned. Had to lift he motor and push the car back because of the sand. Those dimpled exhaust manifolds look very restrictive. The frame mounts seem to be in a different spot on the frame than the 90s. They seen more toward the front on the car. Maybe I'll get some pics of it tomorrow.

csbuckn · #30 (**permalink**) 10-22-09, 04:29 AM

So I got the 500 apart and all the pieces off the 425. There are a couple other things you would want to grab off a 425/368 like the heater connection on the back of the motor(90 degree angle instead of straight back towards firewall), oil filter adapter, pulleys and throttle cable brackets.

One of the cylinders on the 500 has some rust so I hope the machine shop can get it out with a hone job, pistons are not in the budget. I'll put some pics up tomorrow after work. The funnest part was getting the block in my car by myself but Im still alive.