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07-15-08, 03:01 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Hello everyone I am thinking of swapping the original 307 from my cad. My question is which motors would be a direct swap?...I was wondering if I could swap it direct with a 350 from an 89 pontiac Trans Am ( i think its TPI) also what trannys could I put in it I figure I might as well change that because last time I drove the car the tourque converter was sticking. Thanks for your responses in advanced! | 
07-19-08, 10:21 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 1977 Coupe (blue), 1977 Coupe (yellow), 1977 Coupe (green) | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western Massachusetts | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Easiest swap would be to replace the 307. If you do this you can address what is wrong with the trans. If you put that Chevy based engine in your going to have to change the trans, some of the linkage, the engine wiring harness and possibly more.
If this is your first engine swap, the best piece of info I can give you is KISS. | 
07-21-08, 01:16 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 90 broughams | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minneapolis | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap I'm working on the same engine swap but I have found that its easier to rebuild the 307 or get an OLDS 350. If you put that chevy TPI 350 in there, you need a wiring harness, fuel pump in the tank, tranny, tranny crossmember, motor mounts and new fuel lines maybe but you can upgrade your tranny with many options. If you keep it OLDS, all you need is the motor. The best way to do the engine swap is to get a donor car, preferably a 90 brougham because you can use the engine wiring harness. The harness from a 91/92 brougham wont work unless you swap all the wiring and thats were I'm stuck, the wiring. | 
07-21-08, 12:24 PM
|  | GM RWD V8 addict Cadillac(s): 81 FWB 2DR, 65 Impala, 95 SS, 71 Pontiac, 94 Caprice, 92 RMW | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Quote:
Originally Posted by csbuckn I'm working on the same engine swap but I have found that its easier to rebuild the 307 or get an OLDS 350. If you put that chevy TPI 350 in there, you need a wiring harness, fuel pump in the tank, tranny, tranny crossmember, motor mounts and new fuel lines maybe but you can upgrade your tranny with many options. If you keep it OLDS, all you need is the motor. The best way to do the engine swap is to get a donor car, preferably a 90 brougham because you can use the engine wiring harness. The harness from a 91/92 brougham wont work unless you swap all the wiring and thats were I'm stuck, the wiring. | hmmm... the phrase "we told you so" comes to mind... | 
10-31-09, 12:59 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 1990 FLEETWOOD BROUGHAM | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Age: 24 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap  OK THESE TWO GUYS ARE SCARED OF A LIL CHALLANGE  .(JAYOLDSCHOOL,DEVILLE33) I TOOK OUT THE OLDS 307 AND DROPED A CRATE CHEVY 350 IN THERE NO PROBLEM!WITH EDELEBROCK CAM, INTAKE (PREFORMER RPM SERIES), AND CARB (650 CFM MANUAL CHOKE) WITH HEADERS! AND THE 2004R TRANS,TRANS MOUNT, AND DRIVE SHAFT WILL BOLT UP FINE.AND TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE EASY GET RID OF THE TBI SO YOU DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WIRES.PUT A CARB ON IT, THE ONLY WIRES I HAVE IS ONE 12 VOLT TO HEI DISTRIBUTOR CAP FROM IGENTON(PINK COLOR). FOR THE STARTER ONE FROM BATTERY TO STARTER AND ANOUTHER LIL 1 THAT GOES TO IGENTION .AND FOR THE ALTENATOR (3 WIRE STYLE)CONNECT THE BATTERY TO IT ON THE BACK AND FROM THERE PUT ANOUTHER WIRE TO THE LIL POST MARKED #2. WHAT YOU WILL NEED IS DIFFRENT ENGINE MOTOR MOUNT BRACKETS AND EXHAUST. EASY!! MY 1ST MOTOR SWAP DONE IN ABOUT 3 WEEKS AFTER WORK.
Last edited by ADAMS90FLEETWOOD; 10-31-09 at 01:11 PM.
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10-31-09, 01:12 PM
|  | GM RWD V8 addict Cadillac(s): 81 FWB 2DR, 65 Impala, 95 SS, 71 Pontiac, 94 Caprice, 92 RMW | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap STOP YELLING AT US!  | 
10-31-09, 02:21 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 90 broughams | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minneapolis | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Adam, what headers did you use? | 
10-31-09, 02:53 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 1987 Brougham D'Eligance, 1969 Calais Sedan | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Portland, Maine Age: 26 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap i heard somewhere you can swap out for like an old 403 or something too?? I'm not sure, never done it but I've considered ditching my 307 olds for something a little quicker... | 
10-31-09, 05:01 PM
|  | GM RWD V8 addict Cadillac(s): 81 FWB 2DR, 65 Impala, 95 SS, 71 Pontiac, 94 Caprice, 92 RMW | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Any Olds small block or big block will bolt in. 307, 350, 403, 455.
And, to clarify, Adam, most of the people around here know very well that I am not afraid of a challenge. I have the rides to prove it, too.  | 
10-31-09, 07:11 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Fleetwood Brougham | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stuart/Jacksonville, Florida Age: 19 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Holy 15-month-old thread revival, Batman! | 
11-01-09, 09:35 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 89 Brougham deVille d'Elegance | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisville OH Age: 21 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Quote:
Originally Posted by Stingroo Holy 15-month-old thread revival, Batman! | WOW!! I COMPLETELY MISSED IT, THAT CAPS LOCK DUDE BROUGHT THIS BACK!! I thought this was a brand new thread. | 
11-03-09, 04:59 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 1990 FLEETWOOD BROUGHAM | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Age: 24 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap Who yelling? Im just typing | 
11-03-09, 05:17 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 1990 FLEETWOOD BROUGHAM | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Age: 24 | | | Re: 1989 Brougham 307 engine and tranny swap 86-89 chevy caprice headers from summit. Slip rite in | 
11-03-09, 05:19 PM
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