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Old 05-09-08, 11:11 PM
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Looking like a Fleetwood just brings some feathers on Deville's caps but when you put those cars side by side you can easily understand which one is RWD FLEETWOOD

Exactly right------I had my '95 Deville parked way out in our local grocery store`s parking lot the other day and when i came back out after shopping there was a '96 Fleetwood parked a respectable parking space away from mine.I always wanted to see the 15" longer length of a Fleetwood up close,so i parked a bit closer to the FWB and lined up the front end so both were equal and stood back a bit.There`s no doubt the extra length is in the slightly longer engine compartment and longer rear end.
I never could figure out why the longer FWB`s never had "concealed" wipers while the Deville`s had them.
I`ve always loved the body styles of the "94-"96 Deville`s and FWB`s-----both very similar---they both had a relatively short run.
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Old 05-09-08, 11:32 PM
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Re: pic request 93-96 concept car

Now if they would have made the all glass roof out of electrochromic glass..... Flip a switch to go dark....

Hey, the specs on that seemed to indicate the NorthStar was the intended engine!
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Hey, the specs on that seemed to indicate the NorthStar was the intended engine!
Yeah, this concept had nothing to do with anything B or D body. It was a FWD-based AWD iteration with the 4.5L...think of Deville guts of the time, but with AWD thrown in.

The overall look (not direct, of course) in most of the details is what translated to the '93 Fleetwood, actually. It was a case of trying to take a lot of those cues and fit them as best as possible on a car that used the same guts since '77 and also used direct swap parts for the Caprice/Roadmaster. The '93 Fleetwood was the result, still a big, hulking, RWD, framed monster, and not exactly svelte.

But the details are there...from the lower silver/chrome and rub strip, the grille, the general shape, and even things like the flat dash face with a thin wood/detail strip at the top below the dash pad.
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Exactly right------I had my '95 Deville parked way out in our local grocery store`s parking lot the other day and when i came back out after shopping there was a '96 Fleetwood parked a respectable parking space away from mine.I always wanted to see the 15" longer length of a Fleetwood up close,so i parked a bit closer to the FWB and lined up the front end so both were equal and stood back a bit.There`s no doubt the extra length is in the slightly longer engine compartment and longer rear end.
I never could figure out why the longer FWB`s never had "concealed" wipers while the Deville`s had them.
I`ve always loved the body styles of the "94-"96 Deville`s and FWB`s-----both very similar---they both had a relatively short run.
I dunno...I like the 90's Devilles, but I do not like the '94--> FWB's at all. They look so boaty. I mean, my 90 is big, but the lines are perfect. The newer ones look like a Caprice with half-deville taillights that look rediculous...lol On the whole, I think the late 80's Deville's and forward represent the new generation for Cadillacs that I don't care for too much: no/little chrome, indistinguishable, rounded lines. I mean, people are restoring up to '93 FWB's. But who will restore a '95, except maybe for the drivetrain? (And who would ever restore an '05 DTS???) In my opinion, cars have less and less character every year. Soon, there will be one car to "choose" from: a shapeless, generic "car" looking thing that everybody else drives too.


the gist....persoanlly, I don't care for the newer FWB's.
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I dunno...I like the 90's Devilles, but I do not like the '94--> FWB's at all. They look so boaty. I mean, my 90 is big, but the lines are perfect. The newer ones look like a Caprice with half-deville taillights that look rediculous...lol On the whole, I think the late 80's Deville's and forward represent the new generation for Cadillacs that I don't care for too much: no/little chrome, indistinguishable, rounded lines. I mean, people are restoring up to '93 FWB's. But who will restore a '95, except maybe for the drivetrain? (And who would ever restore an '05 DTS???) In my opinion, cars have less and less character every year. Soon, there will be one car to "choose" from: a shapeless, generic "car" looking thing that everybody else drives too.


the gist....persoanlly, I don't care for the newer FWB's.
'80-92 Fleetwood/Broughams have the best tail light design I should say .Again '80-89 era RWD Fleetwood / Broughams have more elegant to sides but front end gets the best 1993-96 Fleets .
Overall ? '94-96 Fleets
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I dunno...I like the 90's Devilles, but I do not like the '94--> FWB's at all. They look so boaty. I mean, my 90 is big, but the lines are perfect. The newer ones look like a Caprice with half-deville taillights that look rediculous...lol On the whole, I think the late 80's Deville's and forward represent the new generation for Cadillacs that I don't care for too much: no/little chrome, indistinguishable, rounded lines. I mean, people are restoring up to '93 FWB's. But who will restore a '95, except maybe for the drivetrain? (And who would ever restore an '05 DTS???) In my opinion, cars have less and less character every year. Soon, there will be one car to "choose" from: a shapeless, generic "car" looking thing that everybody else drives too.


the gist....persoanlly, I don't care for the newer FWB's.
That`s what i love about this Cadillac forum------a variety of opinions on likes/dislikes and plenty of members willing to help each other when mechanical problems arise.
I must admit i miss the real chrome as the earlier Cadillac`s had.I wish my Deville had chrome bumpers instead of plastic ones,but then again plastic does`nt rust.
I needed the chrome look on my '95 Deville--it looked too plain--so last summer i installed stainless steel rocker panels on the lower doors,including the sides of both bumpers,front fender stainless steel trim and stainless steel pillar posts.Needless to say,it`s not plain looking anymore---now it looks like a 210 inch long Fleetwood.
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Re: pic request 93-96 concept car

Is it just me, or does that concept Cadillac look alot like the old Dodge Intrepid and Chrysler 300m?

Greg
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Re: pic request 93-96 concept car

Interesting that this car has come up... I saw it in the flesh in 1990 when it was on display at Epcot Center in Florida. I'll try to dig out the snapshot I took of it back then. Wow, has it been that long?!?!?!?
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Re: pic request 93-96 concept car

I remember seeing a picture of that concept car in a magazine way back when, it also appeared in the 1992 movie demolition man.

Looking at those pics now the car really wound up being a caprice, the interior screams Chevy.
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Re: pic request 93-96 concept car

Same here - saw it at Epcot too!!! Remember sending out a form I collected there for the brochure but it never came. Sure would like to see the pic you've got!!
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