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Old 02-26-08, 09:03 AM
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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

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so do you just unscrew the screws and the vinyl comes right off? is it the pad that is glued?
The vinyl, I think, just tears off once you have the trim around it off--the lower molding at the back and the weather stripping at the top of the doors, where it's tucked into. It's glued down, over the padding, and the padding is glued to the paint.
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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

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After seeing THOSE pics - there is no doubt that my top has its day numbered. I slipped on the ice and have to have a new front fender (PS) and was thinking about a re-paint. I have that Metallic Blue, may keep it may not (I saw a Goldmist color that really blew me away) but the top has got to go and like 96Fleetwood I'll have the shop fill in the holes and all.

Again - Those pics are just what I needed to see.

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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

On my $1500 '67 Chrysler 300 4-door hardtop, I pulled the old vinyl and painted the roof with truck bed liner from walmart. It's pretty nice for a 10-footer.
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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

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After seeing THOSE pics - there is no doubt that my top has its day numbered. I slipped on the ice and have to have a new front fender (PS) and was thinking about a re-paint. I have that Metallic Blue, may keep it may not (I saw a Goldmist color that really blew me away) but the top has got to go and like 96Fleetwood I'll have the shop fill in the holes and all.

Again - Those pics are just what I needed to see.

Yep, and it's really not hard from what has been said. Just peel away, and then the minor work to remove those small studs around the back.

With the car above, he didn't want to get into any bodywork or new paint, so he just peeled and was fine with the little studs remaining--thankfully, all is the same underneath the tops as far as the paint and seams.
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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

Anybody have any pics of a topless (as in no vinyl) 92 or earlier?
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Anybody have any pics of a topless (as in no vinyl) 92 or earlier?
I swear I've seen a few...but searching, hmm...
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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

It was only available on the Deville. Special trim around the rear window.

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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

I just picked up an 88 Brougham - its vinyl is in terrible condition. I want to remove and paint. There is a lot of info on vinyl tops, but the years and interchangeabliity <(--possible new word) are kind of confusing.

Are ther 85 - 96 Broughams without the vinyl top that have the rear window and trim required for permanent top removal ?

OR is it the Deville that has the propper window and trim ?

To sum up the whole question:
Which cars have the window and trim for my 88 with no vinyl ?

I'll Try to collect a bunch of info and show what windows fit on what years.

thanks , for any help
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Re: Taking the vinyl top off?

First of all, the 93-96 Fleetwood Broughams are a completely different body style, so they play no part in your problem. The body style you have is from 1980 to 1992, and the Deville stopped in 1984. To go bare-top on your Brougham you will, at minimum, need the outside bare-top trim from an '80-'84 Deville (I don't know if coupes will work either). But, you will have the still have the enclosed rear glass, because the interior trim is bigger, and I think the formal rear glass (what you have) is covered, so trim replacement may not be enough. Basically you have three options:

1) It will look funny on the outside since the glass have a black ring around it, but get some Deville trim, and put it around your Brougham's rear glass.

2) This will be fine if the Brougham glass is not darkened around the edges. Get the Deville outside trim, and inside trim. Then put them in place around your Brougham rear glass.

3) This is the most sure fire way. Get both sets of trim and the Deville rear glass. Make sure you get one with the defogger if you wan to retain that option, since Devilles did not have it standard. I don't know if the plugs will hook up, but it shouldn't be too hard.

Note everything I just said is relative to the rear glass. There may be other bodywork/painting involved. And I have seen some attempts to remove a vinyl top that look pretty crappy, because they just gave up. For a fact you will have to deal with the B-pillar opera lights. B-pillar lights were only came on vinyl-top Broughams, so you won't be able to find any Deville parts to help you out. You'll probably just have to remove the trim and lights altogether, then do some body and paint work. You could get some old bare-top opera lights (from the C-pillar of Devilles) and put them there, put I don't know how they'd look. Personally, I'd just pay 300 bucks to get the top redone as opposed to all this replacement trim and body work. But hey..

Good luck!
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