Next project 95 fleetwood frame off take 2

[509Rider]

Originally Posted by My_favorite_Brougham

So you're reinforcing it? That car was heavy enough as it was; what will it weigh when your done?

Around 6,000

[lesinfamous]

Im interested in this part of making a lowrider. 509, when you reinforce the frame are you just basically boxing the entire frame including the members or is it more complicated than that? Also, do you recommend reinforcing the frame for cars not used for lowriding? what are the benefits? Does it hurt the ride? how much weight does it add to the car?

[96BIG_BODY]

Originally Posted by lesinfamous

Im interested in this part of making a lowrider. 509, when you reinforce the frame are you just basically boxing the entire frame including the members or is it more complicated than that? Also, do you recommend reinforcing the frame for cars not used for lowriding? what are the benefits? Does it hurt the ride? how much weight does it add to the car?

you can probably use thinner metal, but its still going to weight some

[509Rider]

Originally Posted by lesinfamous

Im interested in this part of making a lowrider. 509, when you reinforce the frame are you just basically boxing the entire frame including the members or is it more complicated than that? Also, do you recommend reinforcing the frame for cars not used for lowriding? what are the benefits? Does it hurt the ride? how much weight does it add to the car?

Ya you basically box the whole frame, its not real complicated if you know metal but it is real time consuming. I dont think its really going to benefit wrapping a stock caddy frame, they are pretty good from the factory, if your not putting hydraulics on it.

[cadillackid64]

The hydro hopping would cause twisting in the rails without the reinforcing, otherwise it's not really neccesary.

[JTraik]

I would expect additional cross-members are necessary as well?

[509Rider]

Originally Posted by JTraik

I would expect additional cross-members are necessary as well?

Nope

[My_favorite_Brougham]

Hey I'm just curious, does anyone ever put hydraulics on the rear to make it jump, too? Because then you could make the whole car come off the ground! If those pumps can lift the engine bay, then they can certainly lift the trunk, even with a few batteries. Has it ever been done? I'd like to do it on the highway, then it would be like hopping. But I wouldn't try to go over traffic.

[509Rider]

Originally Posted by My_favorite_Brougham

Hey I'm just curious, does anyone ever put hydraulics on the rear to make it jump, too? Because then you could make the whole car come off the ground! If those pumps can lift the engine bay, then they can certainly lift the trunk, even with a few batteries. Has it ever been done? I'd like to do it on the highway, then it would be like hopping. But I wouldn't try to go over traffic.

Yes it can be done, hopping the rear causes alot more damage as weird as that sounds, even with a fully wrapped frame you can break axle shafts housings, buckle quarter panels, front end is much more durable.

[509Rider]

Some frame updates.

[Old Fleetwood]

I absolutely gotta chuckle at the idea of some of the gestapo-type DMV inspectors here in Connecticut should he encounter one of 509's lowriders should it ever be imported into this state.
Some of those I've seen would crawl under the car, take one look at the frame and go positively Able Sugar, sayng something like:
"Whaddaya mean? Cadillac never painted their frames candy apple red!" as he drooled down his uniform.
I really wonder if they'd simply say it wouldn't pass because it "wasn't stock" despite the fact that you could probably drive through a brick wall.
But on a more serious vein, do any of you guys ever fill the fully boxed frame members with foam for quiet and maybe a tiny bit more rigidity?
Here in winter, salt-on-the-roads New England, that would keep rust from growing inside, too.

[509Rider]

Originally Posted by Old Fleetwood

I absolutely gotta chuckle at the idea of some of the gestapo-type DMV inspectors here in Connecticut should he encounter one of 509's lowriders should it ever be imported into this state.
Some of those I've seen would crawl under the car, take one look at the frame and go positively Able Sugar, sayng something like:
"Whaddaya mean? Cadillac never painted their frames candy apple red!" as he drooled down his uniform.
I really wonder if they'd simply say it wouldn't pass because it "wasn't stock" despite the fact that you could probably drive through a brick wall.
But on a more serious vein, do any of you guys ever fill the fully boxed frame members with foam for quiet and maybe a tiny bit more rigidity?
Here in winter, salt-on-the-roads New England, that would keep rust from growing inside, too.

We dont have inspections here, but have had a few friends get there cars impounded, and had to remove there hydraulics before they could drive them again, but Washington passed a new law that makes them legal to have now. Never seen a foam filled frame it will be rigid enough when its done thats for sure

[Old Fleetwood]

I'm glad you guys got such a law passed.
Now look at the crap a fellow has to go thru regarding the 4100 when it dies, or even the V-8-6-4 and you want to put another powerplant under the hood.
What is absolutely insane is the fact that IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE REPLACEMENT MOTOR IS MORE FUEL EFFICENT AND LESS POLLUTING.
THE NAZIS SAY YOU CAN'T IF IT ISN'T STOCK!
That's totally stupid!
Our government is BEYOND OUT OF CONTROL!
No, I'm not one of those simply saying everything is "Bush's fault."
This kind of crap is at every level of government.
Every petty bureaucrat seems to have a hard on for every civilian they encounter and love to throw their weight around.
My own last experience was when I tried to have a shed built and the inspector said the shed had to "withstand 90mph winds."
Yup,, just like Florida hurricanes, right here in the middle of Connecticut.
Nobody at Lowes ever heard of that, so I cancelled the order for their building.
But that kind of mentality is raging throughout the entire governmental structure, from top to bottom AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.

[Nyberg]

Nice car, and nice build, i have always liked lowriders, but u dont see much of them here, hardly any,

is it hard to put airride on this car ?
or u know any supplier that have "bolt on" what u need.

keep it up

[509Rider]

Have not updated for a while, here is some more pics of my frame its getting real nice and smooth getting close to powdercoat soon.