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Old 01-06-08, 01:21 AM
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Dealer installed. Doesn't count.
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This is the only pic I have of my baby right now. 1984 Sedan DeVille with 48K orig miles. Let me know what you guys think of her and I will get better ones soon.
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First of all, welcome!

As for your Cadillac, it's really very nice! We don't have too many Sedan DeVilles on this thread, so you are a nice addition. We've got mostly Fleetwoods DeVilles that are coupes. And I really like that paint job. Do post more pics, especially the interior (is it d'Elegance?). And how many miles? You're gonna really have to keep your eye on that 4.1L! All original cars like these are always so nice; just look at those fillers!
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Old 01-08-08, 06:22 PM
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The interior is by Fisher and the body is by Fleetwood is what it says on the plate on the kick panel of the driverside door. It has the dark brown plush interior and it has 48,450 original miles. I just changed the original plugs, wires, fuel pump that was original. I also put a new filter too but I am not sure if that was original as well. I got it about a year and a half ago with 39,123 miles on it. It got stolen 4 mo. after I got so I had to get the steering column and the rear driver window replaced. Oh I also just fixed the trunk motor as well. We have a Junk yard in Phoenix that has nothing but cadillacs so I got it for $50. They wanted $120 at checkers and Autozone for it so I think I got one hell of a deal. It has a small dent on the front right quarter panel from my babies mamma after two weeks of me having it. When I get a new camera I will put more pics of the other side, the dent, engine, and the interior. Thanks for the coments and I do love the two tone paint job myself. Oh the hood it kind of oxidized like rough. How could I get that better without a paint job.
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Great to be part of the forum.
Attached are pics of my "Lilith"...a 1985 Fleetwood Brougham Collins "Le Classic" hearse.
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The interior is by Fisher and the body is by Fleetwood is what it says on the plate on the kick panel of the driverside door....How could I get that better without a paint job.
Yeah, all Cadillacs were made by those folks at fisher and fleetwood. What I meant was does it have the special option package that meant upgraded interior and trim. I believe that car came as a "Deville" and as a "DeVille d'Elegance," but the company may have phased that out after the early 80's.

As for the paint, you have plenty of options. The car has a lacquer paint job, which makes it real easy to work with, buff, shine, etc. You will probably want to talk to Ben (along with others), codename "Benzilla," as he works wonders with these style paintjobs and would have many product recommendations.
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Re: Post a pic of your RWD Caddy!

I dont think it is the d'Elegance cause it just says either sedan deville or just deville on the trim pieces but I think it is a Arizona special edition because of the colors. I will have to look in the book or maybe I can google the VIN and I think it will tell me that HUH. Benzilla huh I will have to see whats up with him. Everyone tells me to be carefull with the 4.1. What is the deal with that do you know?
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My cadillac up for sale here!!
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Re: Post a pic of your RWD Caddy!

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Benzilla huh I will have to see whats up with him. Everyone tells me to be carefull with the 4.1. What is the deal with that do you know?
Chris
Benzy is the king of two tone/ special edition Caddys!

I do like the two tone on that, looks classy.

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Its only the worst motor Cadillac ever attached to any of their cars. Known for coolant issues ect. The HT4100 is a tiny all aluminum 4.1 liter motor with very little power, even less torque, with a small transmission and tiny differential behind it.The HT4100 was used from 1982-1985 and it often failed before 20K miles in its first years. By 1985, the motors general reliability issues had been somewhat corrected, but it was still a very anemic engine. It was so bad that Cadillac stopped production after 1985 and had to resort to Oldsmobile engines as a last resort over stopping production entirely. The HT4100 was actually built to be FWD engine for a smaller car platform of future years and was brought to the table too fast and ahead of its time. This was the big mistake as the HT4100 might have been a good engine in a small front wheel drive car, but it had no business in a full size RWD Fleetwood. It was however somewhat tollerable in the FWD Seville and Eldorado. The low power and extra low torque of the small HT4100 caused the driver to literally have to floor the car in normal driving modes just to pace traffic. On the HT4100 cars, the throttle positioning was adjusted to give the car a lot of accelerator push with very little foot movement. This gave the car an appearance of instant power and was great for a conservative test drive, but when you finally put your foot all the way down, no more power was made and the motor revved itself to death going nowhere with the transmission shift points changed due to the floored accelerator position. The fact that the HT4100 was a first generation all aluminum motor, put it ahead in design and much was learned, but the fact it was so small is such a big car, it tore itself up as it was overworked all the time. The HT4100 usually failed a rod bearing, or had a serious cooling leak issue and prompted an entire engine replacement
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Old 01-13-08, 04:07 PM
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Re: Post a pic of your RWD Caddy!

Great so do you think I got robbed when I payed $3500 for it. I do have a lot of people offering my like$5000 for it. Do you think I should keep it since it has 48K orig and just maintain it good or get rid of it and find another caddi? It did start to have a little whine to it lately and I did have a ticking sound when I would rev it but I think that went away. What do you think I should do? I just love it so much!
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