Bring back the Eldorado!!!

[Jim C]

The coupe market is beginning to come back around.
It's time to bring the Eldorado (ETC) back to the market.
Don't miss the boat on this one guys.

Cadillac needs to Lead the market, not react too late and miss the boat.

The XLR may have been intended to replace the Eldorado, yet the pricing and small size doomed it's potential to fill the niche where a well executed, reasonably priced American sized luxury coupe could have been a hit.

Rear wheel drive is a must.

Thanks,
Jim

[PAULSTSMAN1]

This is a concept published in a magazne some months ago. I recently found it on the internet, it is a drawing of a concept car that was seen in clay at the GM Design Studios. Apparently it is an uplevel Cadillac Coupe E8 or E12. The similarity to the Bentley design is unmistakable, as was the 100K price mentioned in the article. Willl it ever be built? But we can dream, can't we.

[Katshot]

Would probably sell but not with that kind of price tag IMO. Would LOVE to see some "heritage" models come back to Cadillac's lineup. But unfortunately, a $100,000 Cadillac is like a $30,000+ Hyundai, most people just won't go for it. Perceptions about a marque impose price limits, and I don't think anybody outside GM's corporate offices sees Cadillac competing in the $100,000 market right now (or anytime soon!).

[PAULSTSMAN1]

Katshot

We need to consider the dollar situation, today the USA dollar is .15 of what it was in 1960. In 1960 dollars an item that would have cost $13500 now costs approximately (didn't use my work spreadsheet, just ball parking) $105,000. This is what inflation does, why do you think that $35,000 house is now selling for $550, 000, is it because one spent $10,000 on the bathroom, or 25,000 on the Kitchen?

By the way in case you didn't realize it Cadillac has been selling the 2 seat XLR V, it sells for about $106,000, and it doesn't have a backseat!

[pompste]

Originally Posted by lacmang

Cadillac is more worried about people who buy German Luxury cars than keeping people who love Cadillacs happy. They need to bring back Eldorado and Fleetwood. And quit calling the Deville a DTS!

Absolutely 100% correct! There was a time when Cadillac was the "leader" in the luxury car category.Cadillac is now a "follower".
I know many current/past Caddy luxury car owners who don`t like the "alphabet soup" names for current Caddy cars.
Many i know really want the Eldorado & Fleetwood back also.

[gothicaleigh]

Here's your Eldorado:





This is the que for everyone driving Cadillacs from a decade ago to complain. If you are honest though, the old Eldo has nothing on the new CTS coupe. The CTC is more powerful, better handling, comes equipped with a better interior made from better materials, and is actually competitive with other cars in it's class.


...I'm sorry, but they're not bringing the name back.

[Newmonarch]

But there is a problem...Cadillac is in now "Art&Science" Era and all cars are designing with only ruler. But Eldorado was aesthetic car, 1950 to 2002, it wasnt changed. It is like a wine, I dont know you use this term for cars or not, but Eldorado was like Dream car. But modern Cadillac's are looking very rough and though. Evem 2002 Eldorado is looks much better than Mk1 CTS I think. MK2 is much better looking but Eldorado is better. In fact, Eldorado was the way more luxury and bigger than modern CTS. In 2002, It has got front massaging seats on upper equipment package. In 2008, yes Cadillac CTS has got 30 Gb Hdd, Head up display, but its because of year 2008... ( It is about technology, but using massaging seats on a car cost higher than those ) .

Xlr and XLR-V series are good. But XLR is designed to be a roadster and its smaller than Eldorado, and very very small. It is like European car with its 4.4 meter length. I think the Eldorado's only problem was its FWD platform, not another thing. ( Except Northstar engine, I heard it has not got modify capabilities , 300 hp is not so much for that kind of a car I think , and also It has got low torque for 32 valve 4.6 . Bmw's 286 Hp 4.4 liter engine can produce 440 nm.

[artscadillac]

I had 1993, 96, 98 and 2001 Eldorado ETC's and it has been my favorite car. I now have a 2007 CTS with FE3.

If the Eldorado ETC was still here, it would be a 2 door version of the STS.

If Cadillac was going to bring back the Eldorado name, it would most likely be the CTS COUPE.

[70eldo]

Originally Posted by PAULSTSMAN1

This is a concept published in a magazne some months ago. I recently found it on the internet, it is a drawing of a concept car that was seen in clay at the GM Design Studios. Apparently it is an uplevel Cadillac Coupe E8 or E12. The similarity to the Bentley design is unmistakable, as was the 100K price mentioned in the article. Willl it ever be built? But we can dream, can't we.

That looks most likely in the direction of a might-Eldorado!
Never will a CTS or STS coupe be an Eldorado, as the Eldorado, when it will be re-vived, should be the flagship of Cadillac. Therefore it will be a 2-Door DTS-based platform with V8 and V10 engine. Like the size of the BMW 6-series or Mercedes SLK.

BTW, if Cadillac is following, then who is leading exactly? It is you yourself who compare to other brands to find similarities, although all Cadillac models are distinctively different from the competition in many positive ways. At least in my eyes...

I guess I start 2009 with a fresh vision