Wheel Hop, How much would you pay? Here is the LETTER - Page 5

Vrocks · #41 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrocks

... and it's certainly not a safety issue.

If the wheels hop that means they started to spin.
If your wheels are spinning you're not going anywhere fast.
If anything it's a good indicator to back off the power in order to regain traction and control.

The only way I could see a connection would be if (scenario):

Your merging with traffic (on a section of road with no shoulder) and under moderate acceleration the wheels hop, causing the rear end to fail (how you prove this I'm not sure...). Thus your unable to come up to speed, the traffic behind you fails to anticipate this, and they subsequently rear end you. GM would place the blame on Getrag for the failure, not their suspension design(and if the dealer installed aftermarket rims or tires, GM will push it onto them as well)... Of course, I believe the person who hit you is at fault for not having control of their vehicle, especially if you were clearly in their line of sight, i.e. ahead of them trying to merge.

CTSV04 · #42 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 05:13 PM

I registered today so I could particpate in this thread. I like the idea of working together to voice our dis-satisfaction with the wheel hop problem and Cadillac's apparent lack of concern so far. I've owned my CTS-V for only a few months and unlike Vrocks I burn-out under fullthrottle redline and experience severe wheel-hop. I just replaced my burnt run flats with GS-D3's after only 6K miles. However, I have only redlined the car a few times since the wheel hop is so severe. I drive in dry conditions (Texas) and experience wheel hop every time I exceed 5000 RPM and shift from 1st to 2nd. The more RPM the worse the wheel hop. I can only hope that someone from Cadillac will listen and correct this problem. This car is too good to be ruined by one problem that I'm sure can be fixed with the right amount of effort and focus. I'm confident that if the wheel hop problem is not resolved in a timely fashion, CTS-V sales will suffer.

globed70 · #43 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 08:03 PM

When I escalated this problem through GM management channels, and discussed with GMPD directly, they all say the same thing: this is a normal operating characteristic of the multi-link rear suspension.

You know, I love this car... it offers great value for money when you consider power, options, handling, and more than anything... how well connected it feels. But this crap from GM is disheartening. Yes, many of my previous high-power RWD cars had a bit of hop on RARE occassion... but with the temperatures plummeting, this is just plain PATHETIC.

Avejoe · #44 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 08:51 PM

I think

the 4.6, 0 to 60 was at their special down hill, that GM won't

let us use. I Love my V, but, feel, we, as owners, should be aloud to go there. They owe us big time !!!!! But they aint gettin my V back

unless they can make it better

homer403 · #45 (**permalink**) 01-24-05, 11:21 PM

Ok all... I have incorporated what I believe is a good letter. Please cut and past and insert your personal information (i.e., your name and address and VIN #, and signature) and go ahead and send it to me. I will wait two weeks and sedn it off to Cadillac. :drinker My address is:

Derek
8211 Peridot Dr., Apt #403
McLean, VA 22102

January 25, 2005

Your Name Here

Address

City, State Zip

Cadillac Customer Assistance Center
P. O. Box 33169
Detroit, MI 48232-5169

Ref: CTS-V Wheel Hop Issue - Put Your VIN Number here

To Whom It May Concern:

As an owner of a Cadillac CTS-V, VIN # ………., I am experiencing sever case of wheel hop. After talking with other CTS-V owners, I find that this is prevalent with other owners, both 2004 and 2005 models. Visits to my dealer’s service department have provided no satisfactory resolution. Among my concerns, besides the wheel hop itself, is that wheel hop will end up being costly in time and money to me and other owners as more and more rear end parts will fail, presumably under warranty and especially when out of warranty. I hope for a response to this letter that is satisfactory, such as a permanent fix for the wheel hop problem. Additionally, I would like to say that I and the other owners I have talked to love our cars and seek only a solution.

As an owner of a Cadillac 2005 CTS-V, VIN # ………., I am experiencing severe case of wheel hop. I believe that you are aware of the condition and hope that GM engineers are currently working to correct this issue. After talking with other CTS-V owners, I find that this is prevalent with other owners, both 2004 and 2005 models. Visits to my dealer’s service department have provided no satisfactory resolution. There are numerous aftermarket companies that have made an attempt to correct this known issue but have not been 100% successful. This leads me to believe that GM/Cadillac should be the one to devise a solution, as they are the ones who have developed the vehicle and should also be the ones to represent their products.

Although this condition can be induced by what you may call improper or abusive driving, I as well as others have experienced this phenomenon under routine driving conditions such as merging onto the freeways and under normal acceleration. A concern of the current and future CTS-V owners is the safety of this situation when it occurs to the passengers and others on the roadways. Could this situation cause catastrophic failure which could be a direct factor to the driver losing control? It would be unfortunate if this situation was to cause harm to any person or to property. All too often, big business will only correct issues when something unfortunate occurs and are forced to admit the negligence. Obviously the Ford-Firestone situation is still fresh in all our minds. Other concerns is that the wheel hop will end up being costly in time and money to me and other owners as more and more rear end parts will fail, presumably under warranty and especially when out of warranty.

We, the CTS-V owners respectfully request a formal acknowledgement to this issue from GM/Cadillac. In addition, any information should be made available regarding this issue in regards to what has been done and what the future plans are for the situation. A report as to what detrimental effects could be expected with this condition over a long term period would also be helpful.

Thank you for your time and cooperation in this matter. We anxiously await your response.

Cordially,

YOU NAME HERE

Avejoe · #46 (**permalink**) 01-25-05, 10:28 AM

Thanks Derek. Just put a stamp and mailed mine to U.

I come from a place that a hand shake means something special. !
I'm glad my CTS-V was made here. I would hope the people at GM read the writing on the wall and will deal with the problem honorably.
I own a business myself, and when I make a mistake, I own up to it and I eat it.
Streching the truth is aloud for fun, not profit. U at GM, what's up with the #s, Don't give them, if they can't be done ! Or give the #s and say, but I swear to God you got to hit that sucker just right, and elbow me !!!!!!

Groo-V · #47 (**permalink**) 01-25-05, 10:56 AM

Letter on it's way....after some minor changes. Alot of things duplicate in the first in second paragraph. I appreciate you coordinating this. Let's hope it does some good.