Wheel Hop, How much would you pay? Here is the LETTER - Page 4

M5eatr · #31 (**permalink**) 01-21-05, 06:06 PM

That's what I tried to slant the letter towards, the safety issue. I truly am worried that if the hop does get bad enough to shake something loose underneath, it could cause loss of control of the vehicle. The federal NHTSA has a place where you can file a complaint. Here is the link NHTSA

Stephen P. · #32 (**permalink**) 01-21-05, 06:11 PM

Google search: Traction Bar. Hits: 476,000. This has been the object of affection on thousands upon thousands of automobiles. Ford Mustang changed the mounting arrangements any number of times to address Wheel Hop. CTS V is just another example.

onebadcad · #33 (**permalink**) 01-21-05, 09:30 PM

"I expect the dealer installed solution to be included in the price I already paid for the car."
I'm with Digital on this, they already have my money, now I want the car that was advertised without any conditions or limitations or amended/voided warranties or any other inconvenience(s). Cadillac sold this car with full knowledge of the problem. No one should think that the wheel hop issue was not evident in testing, long before the V was rolled out to the dealers. I am sure the decision not to correct it was based on profit, and potential buyer's satisfaction (AND SAFETY!!!) was ignored; GREED IS NOT A GOOD THING. I have not owned a Corvette, nor a GTO, but am certain they do not have this issue. Forum members in solidarity should demand the same level of integrity from Cadillac that we adhere to when we send them a "valid" payment every month (okay, I realize some paid cash but i am trying to make a point)! Monday looks like signing day, count me in, thanks.

Redline · #34 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 12:52 AM

I'm in when everyone's done wordsmithing it to death.

homer403 · #35 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 02:24 AM

It's Homer.... submit comments by 7:00 Sunday EST and I will incorporate and post.

mitchm · #36 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 07:11 AM

As with most of you, I am not particularly hopeful we will get the result we want. However, being a "child of the 60's" activist, this does not mean we should not send the letters anyway. If nothing else, our combined action will at least let all of us on the message board know we have taken somke kind of step in unison (i.e.; the moral victory). Mitch

M5eatr · #37 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 11:44 AM

You guys could be surprised. I have a R1200C that BMW sold with a few "know issues." The tailight bezel would crack just for the sake of it. It cracked and the dealer said it was my fault so I paid to have it fixed. Then it happened again and again but I found a site for the R1200C and talk about a bunch of pains in the a$$e$. But after constant badgering and complaints to the NHTSB, they came up with a fix, and even swapped out the crappy chromed rims. So it can be done, especially when it is a SAFETY issue.

2004ctsv · #38 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by M5eatr

You guys could be surprised. I have a R1200C that BMW sold with a few "know issues." The tailight bezel would crack just for the sake of it. It cracked and the dealer said it was my fault so I paid to have it fixed. Then it happened again and again but I found a site for the R1200C and talk about a bunch of pains in the a$$e$. But after constant badgering and complaints to the NHTSB, they came up with a fix, and even swapped out the crappy chromed rims. So it can be done, especially when it is a SAFETY issue.

Complaining to the Safety Board might help the cause. GM will have to know that once this thing gains traction (the problem, not the car!), it will be posted on every forum of every other car in this class.

This isn't what I'd like to have happen but there doesn't seem to be much of an alternative.

Tony

CVP33 · #39 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 12:46 PM

I'm sure they're following this forum and particular thread closely. I took the risk of including my first and last name in my letter to Mr. Lutz in the hope that it would NOT be just another anonymous complaint, but a genuine attempt at resolution. Most owners are experiencing no dealer push back in replacing rear ends, which leads me to believe there is some communication with corporate GM re: our issues. GM can't afford for the V to have any quality or engineering issues. Remember this is the "Art and Science" car, albeit a little short on physics with regard to hopping axles. It's in everyone's best interest for this to be quietly taken care of. Our's for resale, GM's for image. Replacing rear differentials every 5-10,000 miles is not the answer.

Vrocks · #40 (**permalink**) 01-22-05, 04:24 PM

You guys aren't going to like this post....

Wheel hop must be driving style dependent, because I don't suffer from it as much as some of you guys. Even on full throttle redline shifting from 1st to 2nd my wheels have never hopped under dry conditions. I have experienced wheel hop in wet conditions but not under gravel or salty road conditions.
Although, if I'm having a bad day

I can be a bit abusive to the car (slightly immature)...when it piss me off in wet conditions, I let 'em hop (I know... a blown rear end would only make a bad day terrible).

I was pissed off enough when my tires were dead at 8-9,000mi with no burnouts, just some aggressive cornering and rolling acceleration runs.

I'm not paying jack

for a wheel hop cure, and I don't think any legitimate fix will be cheap or easy to do. Besides, I knew the car had wheel hop issues when I leased it.

What all that rambling above really meant was:
I don't feel wheel hop is a terrible problem, and it's certainly not a safety issue. We purchased the cars and I don't think GM has to do a damn thing to fix it (legally speaking). I'll sign the letter (hoping for a miracle), it can't hurt to try.