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05-05-06, 05:47 PM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville I have given the new DTS a chance.... I still don't like it.
I have had one for a few days as a dealer loaner when mine was in the shop... it drove well.. way more floaty than my 02 DTS... but this was a base rental model I think.
So, it performed ok.. the interior is acceptable.. its the outside looks of the thing.. I just can't learn to like it. To me it appears they took a 00-05 DeVille stuck a different nose and tail on it and called it a new car to bide time to totaly redo the car. The nose is horrid, and the tail is worse... everytime i get behind one I cringe.. looks like a Monte Carlo with a Crest glued on.
I gave it almost a year to grow on me.... it grew on me like a weed in my flower bed.
To me it seems they could have done much much better. | 
05-06-06, 10:33 AM
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05-06-06, 10:43 AM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville Vs.
No comparison. The 2006 has it over the previous generation.
Better layout, better design, better materials... just better. | 
05-07-06, 09:32 AM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville I grew fond of the tank-like look of the old one, but its old. | 
05-07-06, 06:42 PM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville CHANGES THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE DTS
A new model should be added to the DTS line, the DeVille L. This would be a longer wheelbase (probably a custom outsource), a new front Grill ala 2007 Escalade, with the lighting. Drivetrain would be the same for now, except the addition of a 6 speed w/overdrive automatic. Interior greater rear legroom, with interior piping, and 5.1 BOSE SOUND, higher luxury carpeting. This car could serve as Cadillac's Flagship until after 2010 when the next generation of Luxury features could be introduced in whatever the ULS, turns out to be.
Chrysler will offer many of these changes on their 300 L being released as a 2007 model. Also Chrysler has given the go ahead for the Imperial Flagship. | 
05-08-06, 05:06 PM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville I saw a black DTS last night and it really looked nice. It's officially grown on me.. Even the back looked good.. I usually don't care for black cars because you can't see them very good at night. Well, black is very good for the back of the DTS. The lights light-up nicely - and the front is very nice as well.. So I guess I'm a fan of the new DTS in black...
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05-09-06, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gothicaleigh Vs.
No comparison. The 2006 has it over the previous generation.
Better layout, better design, better materials... just better. | I'm obligated to disagree. Perhaps there are practical improvements...But some things leave me asking "why?" For example...the shift in the middle. I can't think of one practical reason this would be better than the steering-column mounted version. It eliminates a seat/space, easier to accidentally knock out of gear, and it honestly looks to me like they just put it down there so people can "feel" like they're driving a standard, which is pretty silly.
I would agree that interior has a "neat" look to it, but it also has a cheap one. The materials and foux wood crap just speak to the point. I haven't personally sat in this thing, but that's not the nice vinyl/leather they used on the old ones, is it? Also, this is just opinion, but I think that hump in the dash on the driver's side ruins the symmetry.
I will say that steering wheel looks a bit better than some of the "fat" ones I've seen since the stupid air bag wave, but I still like the 80s wheels better. Anyway, the interior is buggin' me, but it isn't obvious wreckage to me...on the other hand...
The body...*ralph*... No fins, ugly headlights, no hood ornament, no trim, and just nothing to separate it from looking ordinary. It just...ugh...psychologically reminds me of a naked Pikachu doll which just happens to be able to kick my arse lol. | 
05-09-06, 01:06 PM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville What cars still have steering column shifters besides the Lincoln Town Car and the rest of that platform? (Grand Marquis, Crown Victoria) - Just about all cars have the shifter in the middle.
I know BMW has that new, wierd shifter on the column - but don't include that. It's different..
Fake wood? The DTS uses fake good?
Cadillac hasn't used "nice" leather in a long time... | 
05-13-06, 04:26 AM
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| | | Re: You ruined the Deville I seem to remember looking at Cadillac's site and seeing a shifter mounted on the column on one of the high-end models, but that was a couple years ago, perhaps they've done away with it. But yeah, you don't see it anymore really, which was one of my complaints for the aforementioned reasons.
Yeah fake wood lol... Been that way. I have a 1990, and even then, it was the beginning of the cheap-out age. One of the vehicle's "bragging" points was that the little Fleetwood emblem on the glove compartment was made of real wood... Well that was just the selling point, wasn't it?  | 
05-19-06, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailfin I'm obligated to disagree. Perhaps there are practical improvements...But some things leave me asking "why?" For example...the shift in the middle. I can't think of one practical reason this would be better than the steering-column mounted version. It eliminates a seat/space, easier to accidentally knock out of gear, and it honestly looks to me like they just put it down there so people can "feel" like they're driving a standard, which is pretty silly. | It became popular for one reason or another, I know its much easier to use transmission braking with a center shifter (helps in the winter and going down hills). One of the models of the DTS does offer column shifter, local dealership has severl.
As far as easily coming out of gear....nope, thats what the button on the shifter is for, locks while in drive so it can't be hit out of it. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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