In a matter of days

[flushing]

Toyota will become the worlds largest auto manufacturer within a year or two. I'm sure GM has spent huge amounts of money trying to find out why this is happening. Don't you guys drive the auto's you make? If you had to service your auto's yourselfs instead of getting a new auto every year, you would know. If you listened to your customers who got stucked with so many of your auto's, you would know. If you had to put up with your dealers service and attitudes, you would know.

Can't you make a well built reliable auto. You depend too much on gimmicks, The Hummer, Corvette and such while other manufacturers are kidding your butt builting good everyday, dependable auto's (Camry comes to mind). Even your Cadillac Group puts out auto's of such poor quality,(Catera, Cimmion comes to mind) Why do Lexus, Infinity and other such lines completly kid your buns. You make it easy for them.

When will you learn that the most important things people want in an auto are reliability and safety. A pretty face is good, but when your broken down on the road, a pretty face will get you no where.

My area looks the a Japanese parking center. Everyone is buying Japanese auto's. If Nissan was able to come back from dealt in such a short period of time, why can't GM get it's act togetter. You can give all the rebates you want, when I buy an auto my first concern is reliabiliity.

I just sold my Catera yesterday. What a piece of crap that was. All the people who got stuck with that lemon will be sure to buy another Cadillac in the future (just making a joke).

If you guys have wifes, kids who drive, family members don't you get their honest feed back about the autoes you make. I asume they drive GM products, or do they.

I guess what I'm trying to say is what planet are you guys on that your pissing away your markets and making it so easy for your competitors.

p.s. I own a Chevy Blazer and a Pontiac Grand Am. As I said I just got rid of my nighmare 97 Catera.

[Vrocks]

Originally Posted by flushing

I just sold my Catera yesterday. What a piece of crap that was. All the people who got stuck with that lemon will be sure to buy another Cadillac in the future (just making a joke).

Yeah, the Catera wasn't one of their "finest" creations. But they have woken up, it just takes some time to change to momentum with such a large corporation. Cadillac's has changed its image quicker than I could have ever imagined.

I can tell you Lexus is a major turn off (never really turned me on) now with this new "LF = L Finesse" CRAP they're pushing, and they just can't style a car.

Toyota has really been rolling since the early 80's, and I think GM may be passed in the next few years, but I see them regaining #1 status.

The biggest issue for GM in the future might be the expense of contraction, i.e. eliminating an unneeded franchise, such as OLDS. Then they can spend more on brands that can better differentiate themselves, thus developing stronger vehicles. In short, they can give a little with the prospect of gaining a lot in return (money, market share, greater solidity).

[Rolex]

I hate it when people buy a VERY used vehicle without devoting a second thought to its previous owners and (lack of) maintenance, the vehicle turns out to be a total piece of junk that was mistreated, and they come here to bash Cadillac for making low quality vehicles.

You bought a 1997 Catera (an 8 year old car) and I'll bet the appearance is about 99% of what you considered in your "research" based on your old posts.

Originally Posted by flushing

I really love my 97 catera. It looks great and the interior is the best I've ever had. The Bose audio system is the best. I sometimes sit in the auto just to listen to some cd's from the 12 disk player in the trunk. Of couse, all the gauges, and so on are really something. I had a cadillac Seville for over ten years that was just great. Beautiful and reliable. It just rusted away, otherwise I would still be driving it.

Next time you might try having a mechanic give a USED 8 year old car a "once over" before you buy. You troll around these forums plugging how great you think Toyotas are, go buy an 8 year old Camary and see how well it holds up. An intelligent person couldn't logically blame Cadillac when a used 8 year old car falls apart.

[BeelzeBob]

The older Catera's were problematic.. Wasn't '97 the first year? The first year of a new vehicle or a new version of a new vehicle always has problems. Add to that, that you may have had a lemon, and you'll really be unsatisfied.. It happens...

[Sandy]

The Asian brands and the German brands can make the finest cars in the world, trouble-free, good looking, last a lifetime, yada yada yada sis boom bang..... I have not forgotten German's Reich, the gas chambers and what they did, nor have I forgotten Pearl Harbor. They can both stick their cars where the sun don't shine. I would not buy a Miserable-Bends S600 V-12 nor a DisLexus LS for $6,000 brand new. In my mind, they don't even exist, nor do I even notice them on the road, or look with interest at their new models.
Germany is over there, with France in refusing to help us. You wanna change the name of FRENCH FRIES to FRIENDLY FRIES, which you will get driving over in yoir Miserable Bends?? Explain? China & Japan only look for our American dollars to boost their economy waaay past our own.
F Toyopet !!

[Vesicant]

(no offense to anyone on here)

But why judge an entire automobile company on one car?

[MetaPhaze]

Originally Posted by JefferyG

(no offense to anyone on here)

But why judge an entire automobile company on one car?

Because most people don't have the capacity to think before they speak.

[Eric2203]

Originally Posted by Sandy

The Asian brands and the German brands can make the finest cars in the world, trouble-free, good looking, last a lifetime, yada yada yada sis boom bang..... I have not forgotten German's Reich, the gas chambers and what they did, nor have I forgotten Pearl Harbor. They can both stick their cars where the sun don't shine. I would not buy a Miserable-Bends S600 V-12 nor a DisLexus LS for $6,000 brand new. In my mind, they don't even exist, nor do I even notice them on the road, or look with interest at their new models.
Germany is over there, with France in refusing to help us. You wanna change the name of FRENCH FRIES to FRIENDLY FRIES, which you will get driving over in yoir Miserable Bends?? Explain? China & Japan only look for our American dollars to boost their economy waaay past our own.
F Toyopet !!

That's a little extreme. You're judging entire countries based on what some of their people did wrong over half a century ago. It should not be forgotten, but it shouldn't be thrown to their faces forever either. Most (note the most) germans are ashamed of their past, for example. I'd venture to say it's the same in Japan. Plus, what a government decided at one point in time doesn't mean every single person in that country agreed with it. And some of these people (well their grandkids and further) make these cars. Not quite sure they'd appreciate losing sales based on such arguments. The US aren't perfect either...

PS: The Freedom Fries stupidity is a childish reaction to a serious problem. Whoever thought that up should be fired on the spot.

[cadillacmike68]

GM dealers service and additudes???? Toyota has the WORST dealers in the business. Selling "etching" jobs that cost $45.00 for $2,500.00!!!! the bogus "Gold packages", and ther well known ingrained habit of gouging customer every chance they get. All for a jelly bean on wheels!!!

[cadillacmike68]

Lexass = toyota with a gfew bells and whistles plus a $15,000.00 price increase!

I remember when GM had nearly 50% market share...