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Old 05-25-04, 01:36 AM
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Re: Open Letters to Cadillac Corporate

I hope that exec's as myself do read this forum. I ordered my 05 EXT and this is what it is missing!

#1.)The EXT needs a telescoping steering wheel along with the peddels.
#2.) It needs a Heads Up display Like my wife's Rendevous. The speedo is never in the right place and can't be read for lots of people where the wheel is comfotable.
#3.)The EXT needs a numeric entry like the LINCONS have.
#4.) The EXT needs to have a no leak tonneau cover.
#5.) We need aftermarket rims to work with all the driver info center.

anyone listening???
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Old 06-21-04, 03:33 PM
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I hope that exec's as myself do read this forum. I ordered my 05 EXT and this is what it is missing!

#1.)The EXT needs a telescoping steering wheel along with the peddels.
#2.) It needs a Heads Up display Like my wife's Rendevous. The speedo is never in the right place and can't be read for lots of people where the wheel is comfotable.
#3.)The EXT needs a numeric entry like the LINCONS have.
#4.) The EXT needs to have a no leak tonneau cover.
#5.) We need aftermarket rims to work with all the driver info center.

anyone listening???
Those are excellent points. Here is what else is needed and expected from Cadillac:
1) CADILLAC passenger cars are WAY TOO SMALL inside now. I just drove a 2005 Chrysler 300c (with the hemi motor) and it HANDS down beats any Seville, CTS (standard-not V Series) & Deville in the following categories:
Again I am on my 3rd Cadillac and currently own 2 GM cars.
  • Headroom and Legroom (destroys any production caddy sedan)
  • Performance (has auto-stick and a much more powerful motor and is fun to drive)
  • Gearing: The gearing is brutish, rear drive and strong feeling (Caddy does not compete as is in this segment with Seville or Deville)
  • Overall layout: much more attractive from a seating position and visually. Very reminiscent of a Audi A8/ S Class type/size of car (with great rear leg room).
  • Price
  • Overall the Germans have definately beat out Cadillac with designing this car.(It turns my stomach to say it but the truth hurts).
I am actually quite upset that GM makes small, cramped cars and expects the next generation of luxury buyers to purchase them. They(management) must be either so far removed from market needs that the company is off track or management is completely asleep. Sit in the drivers seat of an S Class Mercedes or the Chrysler 300c and you will see what is expected from a roominess and headroom perspective. Management needs to step in, step up or get out if they keep making sub par sized cars.
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Re: I hope exec's read this forum.

I do not know what late model Deville you drove, but my 2000 beats the 300C on interior room, especially back seat room. In fact the following incident pretty much sums it up. My wife and I were at our local Chrysler dealer looking at 4 new 300Cs. There were 3 other couples there at the same time, also looking. As i walked back to my Deville, I heard one of the ladies say "what the hell is he looking at the 300C when he's driving that Cadillac?" I then turned around and told her, I thought I'd just keep the Caddy and she and one of the other couples all chimed in at the same time that if they had my Cadillac, they would not be looking at the 300C. True story .... made me feel even better about my Deville.



Specs: 300C Caddy

Fr Shoulder 59.4 60.4
Fr Head 38.7 39.1
Fr Leg 41.8 42.4
Fr Hip 55.9 56.4

Rr Shoulder 57.7 60.1
Rr Head 37.0 38.4
Rr Leg 40.2 43.2
Rr Hip 55.9 56.7
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I do not know what late model Deville you drove, but my 2000 beats the 300C on interior room, especially back seat room. In fact the following incident pretty much sums it up. My wife and I were at our local Chrysler dealer looking at 4 new 300Cs. There were 3 other couples there at the same time, also looking. As i walked back to my Deville, I heard one of the ladies say "what the hell is he looking at the 300C when he's driving that Cadillac?" I then turned around and told her, I thought I'd just keep the Caddy and she and one of the other couples all chimed in at the same time that if they had my Cadillac, they would not be looking at the 300C. True story .... made me feel even better about my Deville.



Specs: 300C Caddy

Fr Shoulder 59.4 60.4
Fr Head 38.7 39.1
Fr Leg 41.8 42.4
Fr Hip 55.9 56.4

Rr Shoulder 57.7 60.1
Rr Head 37.0 38.4
Rr Leg 40.2 43.2
Rr Hip 55.9 56.7
There is absolutely NO WAY that the 2000 Deville has equal knee and leg room as a 2005 Chrysler 300C. I've sitten in and drove MANY Devilles 2000 and newer and I also drove the Chrysler.

Room is also measured in many other ways (in my opinion). You need to feel as if you are ina 5 person (fully relaxed) and comfortable car like the 300C feels like. I sit in a Deville and just feel completely crammed. The Dash protrudes WAY to much and the rear head room is too little.

I just want a caddy that takes on a S500 in interior roominess. Am I bitter yes beacuse I've had cadillacs forever and now I don't fit in them. Is the 300C a nicer car than a caddy no (the Deville looks a LOT better from the outside). But from my side of things a car that is too crammed is VERY poorly engineered and Caddy has lost this bout in my experiences compared to the 300C.
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Re: I hope exec's read this forum.

To each his own. My 2000 Deville is the most confortable vehicle I have ever driven and it fits me very well, much more than the 300C. After a test drive, I did like the tourqey HEMI and the "feel" somewhat of a RWD car, but would I trade my Deville for one? NO ... I cannot see me spending long hours on the highway in the 300C. It's wonderful there so many different vehicles, everyone can have what they want. For me, it's a Cadillac.
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To each his own. My 2000 Deville is the most confortable vehicle I have ever driven and it fits me very well, much more than the 300C. After a test drive, I did like the tourqey HEMI and the "feel" somewhat of a RWD car, but would I trade my Deville for one? NO ... I cannot see me spending long hours on the highway in the 300C. It's wonderful there so many different vehicles, everyone can have what they want. For me, it's a Cadillac.
Smokey,
I am also a die hard caddy fan and love everything about the cars. I actually have books at home that describe every model ever and I can't put it down. the reason why I get son tempered about caddys as of late is that I really like all their vehicles but when I am "engineered out" in the size of the interiors. It would be a danger for me to drive the cars(or even get hit by another vehicle while sitting in the back for example). For example with the new Deville: I love the way the car looks however my knees touch the dash right under the steering wheel area. if I were to get in a collision my knees would break and I would be really screwed. Now look at a Mercedes E Class: More room (smaller car yes) but still a lot safer for me. I hope GMs management comes down on the engineering team with rules to benchmark other cars in roominess (especially near the knee areas).:drinker
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Re: I hope exec's read this forum.

The 300? Let me tell you about the 300.....

In Florida right now on vacation.....got to see my father in laws new 300....pretty nice...I drive a 2001 DTS....His 300 is a company car...not a HEMI. Car has 400 miles on it....

Anyways today...FIL gets ready to leave. The 300 will not start....the key would not turn at all.

Being today is July 5th...no Chrysler support.....little 800# support. Hmmmmmm....no dealers open.

Hand our Saturn VUE to the father in law...it runs..cut him loose. After a couple hours of crash course Chryser tech.....figure out the ignition key cylinder has failed....got the car running and able to shift in to gear. I've got the complete ignition key lock assembly with the key cylinder stuck in it...


I guess we will call a Chrysler dealer in the morning....we can fix the car here....just need the parts. If not I guess we will let Chrysler tow it away.


Its a new car picked up last Thursday. 400 miles on it....maybe 20-25 key cycles on the key cylinder. Also the passenger window will go down....but not up.


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Re: I hope exec's read this forum.

I've said this before....and I'll say it again: the two best days you own any Chrysler product are:

1. the day you buy it
2. the day you sell it!!!!!
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Well I know VW (as I mentioned in my first post, used to drive a 2000 GTI) reads VW Vortex. When I purchased my GTI new, they called me about 3 days after I put up a thread about a faulty window regulator, got many responses. They fixed it on the production line and gave us all free replacements.


I hope this forum gets to be as good as VW Vortex is. I think we've got a good start, but we need more people!!!
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The 300? Let me tell you about the 300.....

In Florida right now on vacation.....got to see my father in laws new 300....pretty nice...I drive a 2001 DTS....His 300 is a company car...not a HEMI. Car has 400 miles on it....

Anyways today...FIL gets ready to leave. The 300 will not start....the key would not turn at all.

Being today is July 5th...no Chrysler support.....little 800# support. Hmmmmmm....no dealers open.

Hand our Saturn VUE to the father in law...it runs..cut him loose. After a couple hours of crash course Chryser tech.....figure out the ignition key cylinder has failed....got the car running and able to shift in to gear. I've got the complete ignition key lock assembly with the key cylinder stuck in it...


I guess we will call a Chrysler dealer in the morning....we can fix the car here....just need the parts. If not I guess we will let Chrysler tow it away.


Its a new car picked up last Thursday. 400 miles on it....maybe 20-25 key cycles on the key cylinder. Also the passenger window will go down....but not up.


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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but I'd say you work for GM or a GM dealer..just my gut feeling by your comments. Regardless of any Chrysler 300 starting issues etc..the car is still far more advanced in style and roominess than any caddy on the market right now. Again, I love the Escalade and absolutely love the way caddys look. The engineering flaws are in the size of Cadillac's interiors. If I were a GM shareholder I'd vote for a new interior engineering team for the Cadillac division of GM. The more I think about this the less appealing Caddy's direction is becoming....sorry to say.
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