AMSOIL in 96 STS with 88K

[texascycle]

Amsoil makes a wide variety of oils, including motorcycle oils. The difference is not in the viscosity, but the lack of detergents for the motorcycle blend. This is because there is no separate oil for motor vs transmission and the clutch plates also run in the motor oil ... the detergents can *theoretically* make the clutch slip although I have never heard of anyone actually having this problem in 25 years of motorcycling.

[submariner409]

There's not a darn thing wrong with any AMSOIL product.....The products are just marketed somewhat differently from the mainstream lubes. Why doesn't someone go to war with Royal Purple ????? And we never get into discussions over the Shell-Chevron-Gulf marine lubes. Compared to marine lubricants, automotive stuff is 7-UP. Ever seen a 16,500 HP engine that turns 120 RPM WOT with pistons as big as 55 gallon drums and intake valves with a 22 inch head? Don't need no stinkin' MMO........! Whaddaya grease a 20,000 RPM gas turbine with? (especially one which runs 24/7/180 ???)

[Mountie]

I use Amsoil 0-30 in my 330,000 mile '88 GMC truck ( 350 4-bolt chevy engine - 70,000 miles now) ..... It is the original syn. oil, and the cool aspect of this oil is it stays attached to the top end over night. Amsoil invented an oil WASH / filter system, that I am considering this year.

I use a syn-blend in my '93 STS. I get a quarter sized drop of oil once in a while, which is pretty good for this 120,000 North*.

[Mountie]

Originally Posted by submariner409

There's not a darn thing wrong with any AMSOIL product.....The products are just marketed somewhat differently from the mainstream lubes. Why doesn't someone go to war with Royal Purple ????? And we never get into discussions over the Shell-Chevron-Gulf marine lubes. Compared to marine lubricants, automotive stuff is 7-UP. Ever seen a 16,500 HP engine that turns 120 RPM WOT with pistons as big as 55 gallon drums and intake valves with a 22 inch head? Don't need no stinkin' MMO........! Whaddaya grease a 20,000 RPM gas turbine with? (especially one which runs 24/7/180 ???)

Turbines are lubed with it's internal supply of transmission type oil. I worked for years on some of the world's only 40' & 50' Catamaran Skater off-shore powerboats powered by turbine shaft engines. going 30,000 rpm at 8,000 hp. Some single turbines & some dual turbines.

You would not believe how fast I have been in this boat?

[submariner409]

A probable designer/builder acquaintance of yours (name escapes me) was killed near here, off Baltimore Light, 2 years ago in February, doing 176 mph in a twin gas turbine cat. Saw him do 135 down the Chester River three months prior........I'll stick with Olds 455's in a trick workboat.......(BTW...one turbine shut down and threw the boat into a tight turn at 175.......'twas a mess, and the bodies didn't come up for a month.....)

[Ranger]

That is just waaay to fast to be traveling on water.

[Mountie]

Originally Posted by submariner409

A probable designer/builder acquaintance of yours (name escapes me) was killed near here, off Baltimore Light, 2 years ago in February, doing 176 mph in a twin gas turbine cat. Saw him do 135 down the Chester River three months prior........I'll stick with Olds 455's in a trick workboat.......(BTW...one turbine shut down and threw the boat into a tight turn at 175.......'twas a mess, and the bodies didn't come up for a month.....)

When you go fast, you have to maintain the equipment! ( I'll inquire to who that was) ...... Arneson built a half dozen twin turbines.

The 40' shown was the first twin..... We went 191mph on the San Francisco Bay ( in a consistant smooth area - our 'test' area). It felt fine at those speeds. We then had a 48' that had too much hull, and wanted to 'take off' at 160mph.

The whole idea was horsepower to weight ratio. We have reduction gearboxes to reduce the Rolla Surfaceprops' speed to 2,500 rpm.

Only 5% power loss to the props with the Arneson Drive.

[submariner409]

If that's a pic of a twin cat/Skater, just exactly where's the starboard hull/drive? And why is the port screw clockwise? New design principle we don't know about? Strange trailer for a 40' vessel............Back in the late 50's, sat behind a Rolls Royce Merlin V-12 in Hawaii Kai II, Edgar Kaiser's Unlimited Hydro. Remember driver Jack Regas? Been there, done that.......147 mph on avgas.......Arneson drives are pure magic...wonderful.

[chazglenn3]

Originally Posted by Ranger

That is just waaay to fast to be traveling on water.

Hell, that is way to fast too be travelling on land or water! Only in the air.

[Mountie]

Originally Posted by submariner409

If that's a pic of a twin cat/Skater, just exactly where's the starboard hull/drive? And why is the port screw clockwise? New design principle we don't know about? Strange trailer for a 40' vessel............Back in the late 50's, sat behind a Rolls Royce Merlin V-12 in Hawaii Kai II, Edgar Kaiser's Unlimited Hydro. Remember driver Jack Regas? Been there, done that.......147 mph on avgas.......Arneson drives are pure magic...wonderful.

That's just a photo of a single 32' Cat. We smashed the New Orleans - St. Louis 'On the Mississippi River' by 8 hours with that boat.

The props on the twins turn inboard.

Our 40' gets on plane from a standing start in half a boat length!

I helped build the very first prototype Arneson Surface Drive, and tested the boats for 10 years! ( Talk about a fun job!)

Now, lets take a look at a "quick" boat! 300 Hp, 5 1/2 'G's" in a 90 degree turn.

( Are we off subject?)

[submariner409]

Naaaahhhh! Boats are fun and no emissions.............You can still build some sort of motor with nothing but jets on top and straight pipes on the bottom !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mountie]

Originally Posted by submariner409

Naaaahhhh! Boats are fun and no emissions.............You can still build some sort of motor with nothing but jets on top and straight pipes on the bottom !!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT? I can't hear you......

[submariner409]

Mommy, I see my Christmas present, please ???? ^^^ Does it run on 87 ???

[Mountie]

Originally Posted by submariner409

Mommy, I see my Christmas present, please ???? ^^^ Does it run on 87 ???

The above white 40' cat is 110 octane Race, 800 gal. of fuel.... 2 big iron block 610 inch Chevy, supercharged beasties. About 2,200 Hp total.

The single turbine engine is about 3,800 HP, 800 gallon tank...... Jet-A ( Kerosene )... but only weighs the same as a straight 6cyl. Chevy iron block engine. ( Horsepower to weight ratio )

One race in Lake Tahoe, we were the pace boat. ( No catagory for a non-piston boat).... We paced the race, then held back to let everyone go by. We then did an "exibition" run for the entire 6 laps. We finished the 6-lap race before the leader completed their 4th lap!!

Pretty funny..... We did a lot of waving to the leaders as we blew by each lap.

[submariner409]

WoooHooo! '70 Olds 455 by Yours Truly......dinosaur time.....