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12-27-06, 08:17 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Mercedes E420 / 1995 Eldorado/ 2006 Yamaha R1 LE | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater Beach, Florida Age: 46 | | | Re: Havoline? OK, I'll put in my usual oil post. I use Mobil 1 10/30 in my Eldo, and in the girlfriends T-Bird I use Supertech 10/30. I also think Havoline is a good choice. If you see it on sale, grab a case. The FSM and the owners manual both state you can use ANY oil that is API starburst certified. Havoline 10/30 is. | 
12-27-06, 03:37 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 Pearl White Diamond Cadillac Eldorado ESC | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Brunswick, NJ Age: 21 | | | Re: Havoline? I usually try to buy Castrol 10W-30 for the Eldo. If its too pricey or I can't get it, I usually go with the cheapest there. Castrol preference cause its the first kind I ever saw my dad use. | 
12-30-06, 08:52 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1999 STS - diamond white | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wichita, KS | | | Re: Havoline? Speaking of Havoline, I went to Advance Auto to buy a case of 10W-30 and they were out. I asked the guy behind the counter and he said it was being discontinued! He offereda couple reasons; they were being bought out, they were changing their formula.
What's up with Havoline, I couldn't find out anything on their website?!  | 
12-30-06, 09:41 PM
|  | ViciousCaddy Cadillac(s): 1998 Deville | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Va Age: 36 | | | Re: Havoline? I personally use Pennzoil Platinum fully synthetic. My auto part store usually has it on sale for $2.48/qt.  | 
12-30-06, 09:58 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 Pearl White Diamond Cadillac Eldorado ESC | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Brunswick, NJ Age: 21 | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by EcSTSatic Speaking of Havoline, I went to Advance Auto to buy a case of 10W-30 and they were out. I asked the guy behind the counter and he said it was being discontinued! He offereda couple reasons; they were being bought out, they were changing their formula.
What's up with Havoline, I couldn't find out anything on their website?! |  I couldn't find anything wither regarding a close of the company. Maybe the store didn't have and the guy you talked to was just relaying a bad rumor. | 
12-30-06, 11:01 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 96 STS | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by EcSTSatic Speaking of Havoline, I went to Advance Auto to buy a case of 10W-30 and they were out. I asked the guy behind the counter and he said it was being discontinued! He offereda couple reasons; they were being bought out, they were changing their formula.
What's up with Havoline, I couldn't find out anything on their website?!  | Yeah! I just went to Auto Zone yesterday and the same exact thing happend to me but all of their oil was gone except for a few quarts here and ther. The place were they stock them you could see all the way to the back of the store through them, not a single bottle for 10 or 5W 30. I thought to myself this must be good stuff if they are all out, everybody must be buying it, I never thought about a new formula or selling the company. I might take a drive over to the Advance near where I live and the other Auto zone to see if it is at all retailers. However yesterday I was in Wal-Mart and saw a case of 10W-30 so you can check there. | 
12-31-06, 12:53 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 Pearl White Diamond Cadillac Eldorado ESC | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Brunswick, NJ Age: 21 | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by STS127 Yeah! I just went to Auto Zone yesterday and the same exact thing happend to me but all of their oil was gone except for a few quarts here and ther. The place were they stock them you could see all the way to the back of the store through them, not a single bottle for 10 or 5W 30. I thought to myself this must be good stuff if they are all out, everybody must be buying it, I never thought about a new formula or selling the company. I might take a drive over to the Advance near where I live and the other Auto zone to see if it is at all retailers. However yesterday I was in Wal-Mart and saw a case of 10W-30 so you can check there. | Maybe Havoline is just cutting supply to make people think its really good stuff!
But a bigger store would probably have if the auto stores don't have. I know the walmart by me always has tons of all brands of oil in stock. | 
01-03-07, 01:08 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 94 ETC 78 Eldo 69 Eldo | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: PA | | | Re: Havoline? If I recall correctly (IIRC), the "man" said the northstar was R&D'd with Havoline oil, which is owned by Texaco.
It does seem hard to find in the quart jugs (yea I have seen it in the store that has all the other stuff imported from China). Mostly see it in the 5 gallon jugs now (10w/30).
No need for synthetic oil in passenger cars that run below the 300 deg F range. | 
01-03-07, 01:32 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1999 STS - diamond white | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wichita, KS | | | Re: Havoline? I tried to contact Advance Auto from their website to find out why they weren't carrying Havoline anymore. Still waiting for a response. | 
01-03-07, 05:32 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 96 STS | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by EcSTSatic I tried to contact Advance Auto from their website to find out why they weren't carrying Havoline anymore. Still waiting for a response. | I'd be curiuos to find out what the situation is. I'm not too sure Advance will tell you the absolute truth but they may. | 
01-03-07, 06:05 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Catskill region, NY Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline? All of this seems to be a waste of time and effort. I haven't woned a single vehicle, and there have been many, that has had an oil related problem and all of those dozens of vehicles have gone more than 200,000 miles. My only point here, change your oil often, use name brands instead of Pablo's Discount Home Grown Oil, and your vehicle will liev a long happy life. End of story, this long, drawn out,over disucuused, time absorbing, beaten to death, story. | 
01-03-07, 07:24 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline? | 
01-03-07, 09:26 PM
|  | Cadillac Technician Cadillac(s): none | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Age: 41 | | | Re: Havoline? I didn't read this whole thread....
These days most oils that meet the current API requirements for new cars are all formulated pretty well. Back in the 80's it really made a difference what brand oil you used and I could tell what brand oil people ran in their cars by removing a valve cover. Oils have changed so many times since then its not even funny.
Not to brag but I am an ASE Master Technician, L1 Engine Performance certified, GM Master Technician Certified in 9 categories, which makes me GM World Class Technician Certified, and I have taken over 300 GM training courses. (and there are almost no more classes I can take)
I use Valvoline motor oil in my vehicles.
I used to buy Durablend, but I can't seem to find it on the shelves anymore.
For now I have switched to the 5-30 in the white bottles.
I service my cars regularly and I can't remember doing a mechanical repair on an engine in one of my own vehicles since my '76 Buick spun a bearing. That was.... let's see now... about 18 years ago?
Take it for what it's worth.  | 
01-04-07, 09:03 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1999 STS - diamond white | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wichita, KS | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by MUGSANDLUKE All of this seems to be a waste of time and effort. I haven't woned a single vehicle, and there have been many, that has had an oil related problem and all of those dozens of vehicles have gone more than 200,000 miles. My only point here, change your oil often, use name brands instead of Pablo's Discount Home Grown Oil, and your vehicle will liev a long happy life. End of story, this long, drawn out,over disucuused, time absorbing, beaten to death, story. | I probably dragged this thread out longer than it normally would have gone. I was just curious why a major parts store would stop carrying a particular brand of popular oil. It just happened to be the brand I usually buy because of price. I knew it met the same standards as the rest. | 
01-04-07, 02:21 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Mercedes E420 / 1995 Eldorado/ 2006 Yamaha R1 LE | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater Beach, Florida Age: 46 | | | Re: Havoline? Just got back from Walmart, they had the Havoline 1 qt bottles, cases of 1 qt bottles and what looked like a new design 5 qt jug. 5/30 and 10/30. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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