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03-19-07, 03:02 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Mercedes E420 / 1995 Eldorado/ 2006 Yamaha R1 LE  | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater Beach, Florida Age: 46 | | | Re: Havoline?
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Originally Posted by brmurph  I have read most of the post but not all. Was there ever a final decision if we should stock up on the old Havoline formula (hard to find but still around) because of the extra zdp for the pre 2000 Northstar? Or should we buy the new formula? Seems to me from what I have read the old formula is cheaper and better for our older Northstars. Right? | If you want extra ZDDP ( Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate) use one of the HD diesel/gas oils, Rotella, Delo, or Delvac. Rotella comes in 10W-30 if you don't like the 15W-40. I just switched to that from Mobil 1. O'Rielly's has it. |
05-02-07, 01:30 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 68 DVC, 95 FLTWD, 2000 ELDO, 2005 CTS | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WC FL | | | Re: Havoline?
Well, I guess we won't get to 21 pages after all, but I did find out (in a roundabout fashion) why I need to get a quart of GM EOS for my 1995 Fleetwood right away.  I also need to go find some non ILSAC oil and get a couple of cases.  |
05-02-07, 01:32 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 68 DVC, 95 FLTWD, 2000 ELDO, 2005 CTS | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WC FL | | | Re: Havoline?
Just found out that amsoil was founded by someone in the air facre - which means I won't be buying any of it  |
05-03-07, 01:09 PM
|  | If it won't run, chrome it..... Cadillac(s): 2002 Cadillac F55 STS/53000mi., 2004 Ford F150 Super cab 4x4 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland upper Eastern Shore Age: 69 | | | Re: Havoline?
Read my post on P14 of "Motor Oil is Killing............The same info applies here. |
05-03-07, 01:47 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Mercedes E420 / 1995 Eldorado/ 2006 Yamaha R1 LE | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater Beach, Florida Age: 46 | | | Re: Havoline?
Hey we might get to 21 pages after all.
Amsoil vs Havoline, what about that?  |
05-03-07, 05:14 PM
| | If it won't run, chrome it..... Cadillac(s): 2002 Cadillac F55 STS/53000mi., 2004 Ford F150 Super cab 4x4 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland upper Eastern Shore Age: 69 | | | Re: Havoline?
 Motor oil is becoming like Global Warming......everyone has an opinion and the discussion gets a lot of press........but nothing changes. |
05-03-07, 05:54 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 95 STS | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lockport, IL Age: 36 | | | Re: Havoline?
If High Tech Steve finds this thread we'll hit 21 pages for sure. |
05-03-07, 10:42 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 68 DVC, 95 FLTWD, 2000 ELDO, 2005 CTS | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WC FL | | | Re: Havoline?
no, Ranger will close it if that happens. |
05-03-07, 10:53 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline?
Actually, I didn't close the last one. Steve was doing so much damage to himself with each post I was happy to let to go. |
05-04-07, 01:52 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 01 Eldo ETC, 02 Deville | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Salem, NJ Age: 56 | | | Re: Havoline?
The only two threads I was participating in got closed..  Is it me?...lol
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05-04-07, 09:57 PM
| | If it won't run, chrome it..... Cadillac(s): 2002 Cadillac F55 STS/53000mi., 2004 Ford F150 Super cab 4x4 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland upper Eastern Shore Age: 69 | | | Re: Havoline?
 It wasn't you, JimH.....your coin always seems to land "Heads Up"..... |
05-04-07, 11:00 PM
|  | Cold Soaked Cadillac(s): 2006 STS AWD, '95 Ford Ranger | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fairbanks, Ak Age: 69 | | | Re: Havoline?
If you read through all these posts and all these threads about motor oil it would be pretty easy to conclude that it doesn't make a rat's a$$ what you put in the crankcase. If any motor oil was significantly better than the rest it'd be the only one on the market. If the quality and quantity of motor oil additives was really critical there'd be heavily smoking cars lining both sides of every highway. Nationwide fleets have been operating successfully from barrels of generic motor oil for years and years. Oil mythology abounds.
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05-04-07, 11:07 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline?
Well said, but try convincing HiTec Steve of that.  |
05-05-07, 08:00 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): White Diamond 2001 STS | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Carolina Age: 30 | | | Re: Havoline?
I think Steve has left the building. I'm STILL waiting for my synthetic oil cost/benefit analysis that he promised me in the recent Seville/Eldorado oil thread. Somehow, I'm not surprised that I haven't seen it yet... | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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