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02-13-07, 11:03 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: Havoline? I'm not familer with Amsoil what is it? | 
02-13-07, 11:27 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline? It is an overpriced oil sold by Amway. | 
02-14-07, 12:19 AM
|  | Cold Soaked Cadillac(s): 2006 STS AWD, '95 Ford Ranger | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fairbanks, Ak Age: 69 | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger It is an overpriced oil sold by Amway. | Sorry Ranger. That's an urban myth. Amsoil is not now and has never been a part of Amway. The similarity is that they are both pyramid marketing schemes.
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02-14-07, 01:24 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Mercedes E420 / 1995 Eldorado/ 2006 Yamaha R1 LE | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater Beach, Florida Age: 46 | | | Re: Havoline? I didn't know that. I thought it was an Amway thing too. | 
02-14-07, 01:31 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1999 STS - diamond white | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wichita, KS | | | Re: Havoline? If you Wiki it, you'll get more than you ever wanted to know about Amsoil | 
02-14-07, 05:19 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline? Well, I stand corrected. Guess I was only half right (It's just overpriced oil). | 
02-14-07, 05:21 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1994 Mercedes E420 / 1995 Eldorado/ 2006 Yamaha R1 LE | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater Beach, Florida Age: 46 | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger Well, I stand corrected. Guess I was only half right (It's just overpriced oil). |
I agree. | 
02-14-07, 06:01 PM
|  | Cold Soaked Cadillac(s): 2006 STS AWD, '95 Ford Ranger | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fairbanks, Ak Age: 69 | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger Well, I stand corrected. Guess I was only half right (It's just overpriced oil). | It's the duck butter additive that runs the price up. | 
02-14-07, 07:22 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: Havoline? I heard that will be reduced with GF5. | 
02-14-07, 07:26 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 1996 Deville | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long Island, NY | | | Re: Havoline? Quote:
Originally Posted by EcSTSatic If you Wiki it, you'll get more than you ever wanted to know about Amsoil | NO WONDER they get nuts when criticized or when someone refutes their products.. Someone once told me that when an individual is defensive or adamant about something there has to be an ulterior motive.... Now I understand Thanks | 
02-15-07, 10:33 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): '99 Eldorado, '04 DeVille | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA | | | Re: Havoline? Even I'll say that Amsoil is pretty good oil, my issues are the network marketing scheme, it's overpriced, and the religious fervor of many of the distributors (apart from technical knowledge) from having drunk the Amsoil Kool-Aid. | 
02-20-07, 08:39 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac 96 STS | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Porter Texas | | | Re: Havoline? I use nothing but Castrol in all my cars and Amsoil in my motorcycle. If you are interested in an incredible additive check out motorkote.com. Its for engine, transmission, powersteering, rear ends. Can use it in 2 strokers anything except wet clutches. Was original made for diesel engines and I deal with diesel engines. Its great stuff. | 
02-20-07, 02:02 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 96 STS | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts | | | Re: Havoline? I've heard of the motorkote. I've read that it is a good product and that it really makes no difference in the engine. Never read anything negative either. | 
03-18-07, 08:42 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 98 Concours | | | | | Re: Havoline? I have read most of the post but not all. Was there ever a final decision if we should stock up on the old Havoline formula (hard to find but still around) because of the extra zdp for the pre 2000 Northstar? Or should we buy the new formula? Seems to me from what I have read the old formula is cheaper and better for our older Northstars. Right? | 
03-18-07, 09:34 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1996 Eldorado Sport Coupe | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago | | | Re: Havoline? | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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