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10-02-06, 08:16 AM
|  | Banned Cadillac(s): 1995 ETC, 75 Deville, Cad500 powered 73 Apollo, 94 Mark VIII  | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 22 | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
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Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792  and the air spring suspension is another story alltogether! (and an expensive one at that!) | $300 and a couple hours of your time isn't really that expensive. |
10-02-06, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by davesdeville $300 and a couple hours of your time isn't really that expensive. |
True, but you went with the coil springs for a T-Bird/Cougar right?
What would it cost for 4 new air springs? I don't think installation would be too hard, so that would be possible to do at home.. Are four air springs for the VIII cheaper than the four electronic struts for an Eldorado? |
10-02-06, 01:22 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 1989 STS / 2001 DTS / 2002 DTS | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
I think we're getting off on a tangent. The question was regarding the Northstar as a engine NOT the cars they're in.
The Northstar is a great engine and to the best of my knowledge only has one major flaw and that's the head gasket thing. We all agree that following the proper maintenance schedule is the best preventative method in avoiding any problem, especially that one.
MAP sensor has nothing to do with the Northstar. That's a part on all cars and they do go bad. When you own something like a Northstar why do you want after market parts? There's no point. It's a world class engine, leave it alone.
And why on earth would you choose a Ford product over a Cadillac. Do you love electrical problems? Poor value retention? You think the Northstar is complex, have you ever tried to read a schematic for a Ford product.
Just wanted to reel everyone back in.
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10-02-06, 01:28 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: FL | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
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Originally Posted by codewize Just wanted to reel everyone back in. |
This thread is stupid.
There! I said it!  |
10-02-06, 01:44 PM
| | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Poor man's STS--> '00 Regal GS. | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Twin Cities, MN Age: 22 | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
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Originally Posted by codewize The Northstar is a great engine and to the best of my knowledge only has one major flaw and that's the head gasket thing. We all agree that following the proper maintenance schedule is the best preventative method in avoiding any problem, especially that one. | Exactly. Quote: |
Originally Posted by codewize When you own something like a Northstar why do you want after market parts? There's no point. It's a world class engine, leave it alone. | Make it faster! Eat an LT1 Camaro off the line!!
That's the thing about the N*, it's a lot like a German V8, high performance, smooth, high tech, reliable, but there's no aftermarket for it! Have you ever tried to buy go fast parts for the 4.2 DOHC V8 in the M-B S420s? There isn't any! It sucks! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Codewize And why on earth would you choose a Ford product over a Cadillac. Do you love electrical problems? Poor value retention? | RWD and aftermarket mainly is the reasoning behind the VIII. |
10-02-06, 04:05 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 1989 STS / 2001 DTS / 2002 DTS | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
Ok so there may be some need for aftermarket but if you designed an engine like that would you want people adding crap to it and playing with stuff?
The RWD I'll agree with, but nothing else. |
10-02-06, 04:15 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1996 Eldorado Sport Coupe | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
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Originally Posted by eldorado1 This thread is stupid.
There! I said it! |  |
10-02-06, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by codewize Ok so there may be some need for aftermarket but if you designed an engine like that would you want people adding crap to it and playing with stuff? | I suppose.
Just out of curiosity, have you owned some Fords that have been total shit? |
10-02-06, 07:44 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 1998 Cadillac Deville | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Amherst (Buffalo), New York Age: 21 | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
In a FWD V8 Sedan there really isn't much room for aftermarket.
Now that the Northstar is in a RWD configuration (and for hot-rodders they've been doing stuff in RWD with it for awhile and putting parts on) you're seeing some aftermarket stuff for the current STS, SRX, XLR and the V-Series cars.
Most owners of 4000lb luxury sedans don't want to add aftermarket stuff since its a daily driver and needs to always be reliable. Nitros being the exception and people have proven the northstar likes a shot of that.
Now that you have the northstar attached to a Nurburgring tuned suspension and a 5/6speed "manumatic" transmisison you'll see more aftermarket as the developers see the market.
The eldorado being the exception, that's a caddy I wish had all sorts of aftermarket, but as seen on this board, nitrous can really add some pep. |
10-02-06, 09:07 PM
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Well I believe in the FWD Intech Continental, you can use install the same supercharger that you can on the Mark VIII, I'm not positive on that though. If you could, it would make for some god awful torque steer! |
10-02-06, 10:36 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 1998 Cadillac Deville | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Amherst (Buffalo), New York Age: 21 | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
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Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792 Well I believe in the FWD Intech Continental, you can use install the same supercharger that you can on the Mark VIII, I'm not positive on that though. If you could, it would make for some god awful torque steer! | Which is another thing the northstar system has been designed to lessen (equal sized halfshafts). |
10-02-06, 11:07 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 1989 STS / 2001 DTS / 2002 DTS | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
I never liked Ford product even as a kid. I think it's because my dad had Ford stuff and it was always broken. Then when I was younger I bought a 2 year old 1985 Continental Givenchy edition. Beautiful car, nice quiet ride, plenty of toys.
However the drivetrain was crap. 302 replaced the oil pump drive shaft 3 times. I got so fed up with the car I let it get repoed. The thing was a money pit.
After that I did some drywall work for a guy who traded me an 78 Coupe DeVille for the work. I haven't driven anything but Cadillac since and I'm happy. I liked the 78 better than I've ever liked any Lincoln. Dependable without a doubt. Quote:
Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792 I suppose.
Just out of curiosity, have you owned some Fords that have been total shit? | |
10-03-06, 09:56 PM
| | Banned Cadillac(s): 1995 ETC, 75 Deville, Cad500 powered 73 Apollo, 94 Mark VIII | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 22 | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
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Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792 Well I believe in the FWD Intech Continental, you can use install the same supercharger that you can on the Mark VIII, I'm not positive on that though. If you could, it would make for some god awful torque steer! | The Mark VIIIs can run a 96-98 Cobra kit with some modification, from what I've seen it seems like it would take quite a bit more work on the Conti.. |
10-03-06, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by codewize I never liked Ford product even as a kid. I think it's because my dad had Ford stuff and it was always broken. | Yup same here actually. The last Ford product my dad owned was a 1989 Taurus LX Wagon. It was a beautifiul, fully loaded, very luxurious wagon. He had many, many reoccuring problems, and lots of new ones in the three years that we owned it (1991-1994). When it was totaled due to some reckless kids behind the wheel of a Jeep Grand Wagoneer, he was very very glad it was gone! And after that he swore off Ford! He owned an '85 F-150 with the 4.9 I-6 for a year in '86-'87, he really liked that though, but he had to sell it to move into our first house shortly after I was born. His dislike in Ford is what made me a GM man. Before I had the Cadillac, I never considered purchasing any Lincoln, sans the '68-'76 Mark Series, but I knew I could never own one of those in my teenage years.
Even now, I hate Ford/Mercury, and I like some Lincolns, but not most of them. |
10-03-06, 11:41 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 1998 Cadillac Deville | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Amherst (Buffalo), New York Age: 21 | | | Re: How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?
My dad had a huge 89 Lincoln town car, loved that it had rear seat reading lights.
Anyway towards the end of its life you needed to double to keep it running and the transmission was getting worse and worse, eventually someone ran into the back of it, bent the bumper under, got the money for that, bent bumper back up, and it drove for awhile.
That car took a beating though, my dad was a traveling salesman so it really got abused.
Seems fords seem to have tranny problems over engine problems though. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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