How do you Northstar owners like your Northstars? Would you recommend them?

[Haleykeek]

i have a 1994 Seville STS.the only problem i have had with it,and yes it's northstar powered(not a chevy pushrod motor in this one),is that it has a small oil leak on it somewhere.other than that,it's strong,and runs hard.it'll bark the tires in second gear under "hard acceleration",leaving those "sorry Lincoln Mark VIII's" in the dust.i have a nice set of low restriction turbo-mufflers on it,and it sounds deep.try driving the ETC or the STS versions of the North* Motor.they have more power than their cousins.

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Well my 1st choice in a Northstar Cadillac would be a '97-99 DeVille Concours. Choice #2 would be a 96-02 Eldorado Touring Coupe. Choice #3 would be a.. I'm not sure..

[6V92TA]

Third choice should be a 93 Fleetwood Broham (i like spelling it that way). Once you get wiff of the LT1,everything else will be second to none.

[6V92TA]

Originally Posted by Mountie

Rough at idle & at slow start, seems like the EGR is in need of cleaning.

Very common in most every vehicle, that it should be a maintenance item.

It should be cleaned when troublshooting.

Where is the EGR located and is it cleanable from the backyard or do i have to take it in to do that?

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Originally Posted by 6V92TA

Third choice should be a 93 Fleetwood Broham (i like spelling it that way). Once you get wiff of the LT1,everything else will be second to none.

Well the LT1 Brougham is one of my favorite Cadillacs of all time. It's probably #3 behind the '97-'99 Deville Concours and '96-'02 Eldorado. Oh and FWIW, the 94-96 Fleetwoods were the LT1's, the '93's were the older 185hp L05 5.7. And yes, I do know how great the LT1 is, I had it in a Roadmaster.

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Let me explain this for everyone, let me know what you think.

The Fleetwood Brougham is a better looking car IMO than the DeVille Concours and Eldorado. When I see a LT1 FWB on the street, I'll instantly turn and stare at it, the Eldorado and DeVille Concours don't do that for me. One day, I looked at a '94 Fleetwood Brougham and a '95 Eldorado, and from what I saw, I actually liked the Eldorado more. Sure, the exterior isn't as nice, but the interior was much nicer and it had much better seats and the full instrumentation I like so much. I didn't get to drive the FWB, but I really liked that '95 Eldorado, even though it wasn't an ETC. Same with the '98 DeVille Concours I looked at. It's not as good looking as a FWB, but the interior is a lot nicer IMO and it's got a lot more gadgets, which is a very good thing. It probably drives a lot smaller and is a lot sportier though..

So would you guys go for a car that strikes your head (Eldorado, Concours) or the one that strikes your heart (Fleetwood) ?

[Cadillacboy]

Fleetwood Brougham is "The Cadillac of the Cadillacs" .Ok, you can tell me then why I picked up an STS instead.FB is a bit big boat to me considering it's 225 inches whereas STS is only 201 and I wouldn't trade my STS for latest model FB even although I love it so much .If you are same with me then get Concours D'elegance that's a closer car to FB .
However , I would like to buy a FB also but as a 2nd car .
Back to your question , I think you can modify a FB with LT1 engine that means so much higher HP and torque unlike NS . If you like mods then get a '94-96 Brougham .
I personally don't think that both Eldo and Deville wouldn't look more classier in both interior and exterior than FB .

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

I guess it depends on the color. A silver Eldorado or Concours I wouldn't look at, but if the Eldorado was that beautiful red color, I'd have to look twice. Same goes with a Concours in the right color. But the Concours and Eldorado have the better interior IMO over the FWB. Yes, it is a little on the large side, but to me, a Cadillac should be large and in charge! Besides, it's only 10" longer than my Roadmaster, and that's a size that most would scoff at! But the Roadmaster (and probably the FWB too) never felt as large as they looked. Heck, a '90s Town Car is 3" longer than my Roadmaster but it feels 3' longer sitting behind the wheel! Yes, you can mod an LT1 into the 500+ hp category very easily, but idk if I'd wanna spend all that money and have someone else do it considering I'm not very mechanically inclined.

[Ranger]

It's in the Tech Tips section.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...egr-valve.html (How To Clean The EGR Valve)

[GreenMachine]

Stock an LT1 Fleetwood would get eaten for breakfast by a base or Concurs Deville speed wise, might be a weight distance but all those fleetwoods are good for are cruising in class and comfort.

With that said the LT1 has aftermarket parts for just about anything and being RWD its much better setup for some hot roding, but if your going to stay stock the Northstar is the better choice.

The LT1 is short in the Horsepower department and upper end of its power band (basically it runs of out steam before the northstar does) but it has a lot of Torque to move that big car and would be fun to spin some tires with, I think that was pre-traction control (or optional) days so that could be a fun car to drive for sure. It was an engine made for a sports car so you can get it going on the highway but it simply runs out of steam moving all that steel when it was designed to move a small fiberglass vette

[codewize]

Originally Posted by Cadillacboy

Fleetwood Brougham is "The Cadillac of the Cadillacs" .

No doubt. The Brougham is the definition of Cadillac by far. I love my DTS with all the toys because I'm a techie guy anyway, I love driving my STS equally as well but when it comes to the word 'Cadillac' The Brougham is the definition.

[codewize]

Thanks Ranger. I did search but this didn't come up. Does this hold true for OBDII cars? I guess if it still looks like that I'll find it. I'm going to be doing the Volant CAI soon so while that's out I'll clean the TB plate and bore along with the EGR.

Originally Posted by Ranger

It's in the Tech Tips section.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...egr-valve.html (How To Clean The EGR Valve)

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Well the LT1 isn't bad at all, it just pales in comparison with the Northstar. The LT1 in my Roadmaster was much better in freeway acceleration than the 4.9 in my deVille is. The 0-100 in a 300hp Concours is around 19.5 seconds, the 0-100 in a LT1 Brougham is probably near 21-22 seconds. The 0-100 in my deVille is like 26 seconds.

In city driving, where I spend the most of my time, the LT1 would be more "fun" because there is a lot of power down low, but in the Northstar, you would always wanna go above 3500 RPM because that's where the fun starts. Not saying that the Northstar doesn't have power at low RPMs, but when you hit 3500RPM, it's like a turbo kicked in.

As far as spinning tires goes, it's not fun anymore, it's just an annoyance. That's definetly one benefit of the Northstar; traction control, less torque and equal length halfshafts to lessen torque steer and burnouts.

The Concours definetly has some other very practical benefits too. It's smaller, which means it's easier to park/manuver in the congested city streets and parking lots. It's FWD, so it's better in snow, and it's probably better on gas seeing as how it's like 400lbs lighter, with a smaller engine.

It's not so much of an old man's Cadillac either. It's got five place seating with a center console, floor shift and full instrumentation. I don't particularly want another 6 seater with zero instumentation. I like my gauges and never understood 6 seaters..who wants to sit in the front center? The Concours is definetly more European by design, but still destinctly American, the perfect compromise. Something that is forgotten in the newest Cadillacs...they're wanna be BMW's.

I like the '96-'02 Eldorados a lot too, but the Concours is a lot more practical. I like driving my friends and family around in Cadillac Style, with loads of room, and I don't think they would want to ride with me as much if my car wasn't an extremely roomy four door. It's a pain to try and get everyone in and out of a two door. But on the other hand, if they don't wanna ride in it, I won't have to drive as much, and it'll save me money on gas.

Between a '97-'99 DeVille Concours, '96-'02 Eldorado and LT1 Brougham, is there a huge difference in ride and handling? I'd imagine so between the Brougham and Eldo, but is it a big difference between the Brougham and Concours? How about the Eldo and Concours?

[Ranger]

Originally Posted by codewize

Thanks Ranger. I did search but this didn't come up. Does this hold true for OBDII cars? I guess if it still looks like that I'll find it. I'm going to be doing the Volant CAI soon so while that's out I'll clean the TB plate and bore along with the EGR.

That is good for all Norhtstars, OBDI or OBDII.

[davesdeville]

Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792

I don't particularly want another 6 seater with zero instumentation. I like my gauges and never understood 6 seaters..who wants to sit in the front center?

I think you need to do some test driving if you're wondering about the Eldo vs Concours vs Fleetwood.