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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

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If it takes the cadillac mech 7 hours for that job he should be fired...but yet another reason why "most" dealerships should be called stealerships....

Would help if you were local...good luck it wont be bad...slightly messy but hell soap is cheap

Looking forward to the update
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

wow, i did it in like 3 or 4 tops. a tech should be in the 2-3 hour range. would have done it right if i didn't loose the checkballs...lol

what a rip on that dealership, the place i went (walser cadillac in Apple valley MN if anyone is looking for a good-honest shop) charged me $327, THEY EVEN called me to see if i had the original transmission gasket, because the one i used was a cork, and isn't re-usable, but the oem pan gasket is resusable, they wanted to save me $50!!! but i already tossed it. ill try to find the work order, but i believe it was 2.5 hours time + shop supplies

hope it works out, pics would be awesome, we need to get a good database of info....but sal or whoever it is that runs this site, if you decide to close it someday, tell someone so we can back up all the info!!!!! alot of stuff was lost on gmforums.com
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

UUUUUGH!!! I'm REALLY REALL SORRY guys!!! I got down to the garage and got the car up on jackstands, got the pan off and thought.. perfect picture opprotunity. Got out the camera only to find the memory card was still HOME!!!

Anyways... here's the deal.. Lots of interesting information to pass along.. I REALLY wish I could have gotten pics for everyone cause they SURE as hell would have helped me.. I don't know about your trannies, but this one had 4 check balls under the valve plate and another 4 under the servo plate. LUCKILY, since mine all fell out no matter what I did, the spots for them were painfully obvious. they are tear dropped shaped spaces with a small hole at the small end and the big hole at the big end.. the check ball goes in the big hole. once I saw this, I just put them all in a pile till I was ready to put them back together..

Ok.. sorry.t hat should ahve come next.. but here's a few other things.. when removing the valve body, remove the DARK colored piece FIRST. BTW.. keep ALOT of shop towels on hand and a LARGE catch pan for the fluid. Once you remove that piece, you can pop off the solenoid wires.. either way, those will come off without any trouble no matter what you do first. OK.. now.. there's a small rod connecting to the shifter held in place by a metal clip.. I STRONGLY suggest pulling that rod off first. It's attached to a looong valve that goes all the way thru the valve body. depending on how you tilt the valve body when you remove it, this might just fall right out.. that's ok cause it will slip right back in.. it's held in by nothing more than the rod connecting it to the shifter. There is also a THIRD connector you need to be VERY careful of. It's a 5 pin connector with only 3 wires in it. you pretty much need ot have the valve body off to get to the clip holding it to it's connection.

What else can I think of... oh.. HOLD the solenoids in place as you remove the retaining clip.. and DEFINITLY don't have it pointed at your nose..... there's a bit of spring pressure behind them. Also, do not forget to remove the tiny sheck ball from the pan if it has not already made it's way to the pan magnet. this is from the inside of the broken solenoid. fortunately, I only had ONE broken solenoid but I replaced them both anyways... amazing how a small L shaped piece of metal can make a HUUUGE difference.

All and all, it was kind of a fun job. definitly a learning experience.. never touched a FWD tranny before. and guys.. I'm NOT bragging here I promise you, but using just hand tools, I went from putting the jack under the car to washing my hands and putting my tools away in just over 2 hours. spent the third hour cruising the interstate at 80 for the first time in my new cadillac.

Again, I am SOOOOOOOOOO sorry about not being able to get pictures.. I had nice plans for some very good pics with captions, markings n such.

PS.. make sure you let the car cool off for a LONG time or bring friggin pot holders.. internal parts remain HOT for a LOOONG damn time.. I unfortunately, was very pressed for time ahd had a VERY hot trans to work on... was glad I brought my gloves..

Thank you guys for helping me thru this experience..

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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

glad it all worked out, wish i had seen all this info before i did it.

hot tranny isn't fun to work with, but i had to work in slush w/ a hot tranny and it was COOOOLD out, i was pressed for time too, wish i had stopped at a car wash first to get rid of the slush buggars..haha didn't even think of it
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

Glad to hear it went well. Too bad about the pics. You almost need a photographer there. We tried to take a lot of pics when we did the head gaskets on my brothers car but only took a few. Once you are working and greasy you don't stop to take pics!
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

I assume since you were crusing at 80 everything is good to go....now if you havent already clear all codes and see if any come back. Glad to hear it went well...nice being able to fix it for under 100 buck isnt it

I agree with Zonie ..hard to take pics when your working and all greasy...I tried on my altenator but didnt come out near as well as I had hoped and got my camera all gunked up

Enjoy your nice smooth ride
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

Just a quick question for ya? Whats the deal with the L shaped bracket. I just did mine and my dad didn't think I needed the bracket so I left it out. Guess what? I have to pull it all apart again tomorrow. 3rd and 4th gear went again. I will get pictures my second time through and it wasn't really a hard job. I got some good directions on here. The pics would have been helpful though. I would appreciate if you could let me know about that bracket.

Thanx Sparkling
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

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The bracket is to hold in the filter between the two solenoids. The old design which was flawed had a small plate coming out the side of the solenoid which held the filter in. Both of the solenoids must be changed along with the filter and the bracket to correct the problem. I did mine today and it now works great.
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Re: Shift Solenoid "A" and "B" question

k guys that was the prob, the L bracket. When I dropped the valve body I could clearly see the screen had popped out. I did take some pics that might be helpful. They helped me when I was putting everything back together.
Any idea how to get the pics into here?
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A great big "THANK YOU" to everyone who posted in the P094 thread...My 95 Eldy decided to go into "get you home " mode (2nd gear ) with the infamous P094 code..I am pretty handy with a wrench, but all your posts in this thread really gave me the courage to do it myself...A special thanks to the guy who took the pictures...The job was just as easy as everyone said it was...$62 at the local dealers for the shift kit and $37 for a new pan gasket....alls well that end well, I suppose......THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.....
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