for under 8k would anybody buy a NS Caddy?

lenny lincoln · #1 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 02:41 AM

I have been a buyer of luxury cars both caddy and lincoln for 20yrs. lately its been lincoln. I have been reading caddy forums after buying a winter beater 93 deville and loving it up to my specs. I have been seeing cheaper newer devilles than lincolns and seening that most try to advertise new seals or head gaskets with some newer type of head bolts. In my findings the North star is crap beyond the warrenty period and shouldnt be bought w/o the exceptant many kick in the groin 2k repair bill. Anybody eles feel the same?

urbanski · #2 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 08:28 AM

dkozloski · #3 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenny lincoln

I have been a buyer of luxury cars both caddy and lincoln for 20yrs. lately its been lincoln. I have been reading caddy forums after buying a winter beater 93 deville and loving it up to my specs. I have been seeing cheaper newer devilles than lincolns and seening that most try to advertise new seals or head gaskets with some newer type of head bolts. In my findings the North star is crap beyond the warrenty period and shouldnt be bought w/o the exceptant many kick in the groin 2k repair bill. Anybody eles feel the same?

Don't buy a Northstar under any conditions. You wouldn't be happy.

submariner409 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 10:45 AM

lenny, A Northstar-powered car is not for you. Mechanical nightmare, expensive, leaky, oil burning and slow. Your car is a late "soap bar" shaped Lincoln Town Car, white with a tan fabric roof.

Mark C · #5 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 01:30 PM

I've bought two, a 1000 dollar 97 STS and a 500 dollar 2000 Deville. Of course I have the ability to fix them myself, and have, otherwise they would be in a scrap yard by now. The STS is my daily driver, and the Deville will be my wifes once its registered in a couple of weeks. I would never take either car to a dealer to be repaired if i owned them from new and they needed a 3000 dollar engine job at this point in their life, but for the price i got them at, I'll keep them and drive them until so other major disaster befalls them.

eldorado1 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 02:44 PM

500! nice!! Did someone hand them a $7000 headgasket bill or something? I mean that's a nice ROI.

**Ranger** · #7 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 03:45 PM

Ur7x · #8 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 04:03 PM

As they say... This thread makes as much sense as spinach.

So if the Caddy is worth more then $8,000 you would consider it... but as soon as it gets to $7,999 its worth nothing in your eyes?

Lets go with your POV that every single head gasket will fail (which we know is not the case)... Would you rather spend $10,000 and then have a $3000 repair bill or $7000 and have a $3000 repair bill....

Option 1 the car cost you $13,000
Oprion 2 the car cost you $10,000

I will take option 2 every day of the week...

With logic like yours, let me guess, you work for the federal government.

CadillacSTS2003 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenny lincoln

I have been seeing cheaper newer devilles than lincolns and seening that most try to advertise new seals or head gaskets with some newer type of head bolts. In my findings the North star is crap beyond the warrenty period and shouldnt be bought w/o the exceptant many kick in the groin 2k repair bill. Anybody eles feel the same?

Oh and the Intec was a marvel of the modern world...
lets see
4.6 Intech 260 HP
4.6 N* 275 or 300 HP
and thats JUST a starting point.... the Intec is no more immune to HG failure than a N*

N* worlds easier to work on only expensive if your stupid enough to go to the dealer and say hi I bought a Cadillac please rape me...

if thats your opinion on this car please stick to Lincoln...

lenny lincoln · #10 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 06:32 PM

OK , lets speak the truth. who here hasnt had a oil leaking NS or a head gasket blown in one? please included your year and your current mileage. Prove it to me that I am wrong and that these major issuses are just isolated events. I am looking to hear from the 90-150k crowd. Not the new car owners. What I meant by the 8k figure is once the cars value reaches the depreication figure of 8k its junk . YOu might as well park it out back and make a planter box out of it.

hueterm · #11 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 06:39 PM

The post doesn't make any sense because all he wants to do is

Ur7x · #12 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 06:45 PM

2002 STS driven HARD daily.

90,000 miles
No oil leaks
Original Head gasket

I know of four others that I have worked on a 1996, 1998, 2000 and a 2001
all with over 100,000 the 1998 drips a little oil the other are fine.. All on original head gaskets.. the 1998 and 2001 also driven like they were just stolen. The 1996's CD player is broken right now...

I also know of two 1997's that have needed headgasket work... One at 40,000 miles while still under the factory warranty. When the gasket went it was worth WAY more then $8000.

Headgasket failure and car value are NOT related imo

If I were shopping for a Northstar car I probably would avoid 1999 and older ones...

But the 2000 and newer cars seem to be holding up well.. lots of really nice 2000 STS are out there for <<$8000...

codewize · #13 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 07:05 PM

First of all lets just say you have, ohh say an 01 with 90k on it. Reasonable, right. And the car is awesome and in otherwise exceptional shape. Is it not worth a $2000 repair to make it right?

I personally don't understand why people think the way they do about repairs. I just put $1500 worth of front end work into my 89 STS and I'd do it again in a second.

For $1500 I have another car to drive, which BTW is very dependable. Is that not worth the money? I don't understand people at all. A car is NOT an investment it's a liability so unless the car really isn't worth the repair cost and you have so much extra cash to buy a new one then yes $1500 one time was much better than $700 a month for the next 3 years.

Just the fact that you have the word Lincoln in your name I don't think you're ready to own a N* powered vehicle.

They're not junk at all they just require a little more care than other engines, as do all hi performance engines. They're actually the opposite of junk and are a world class engine now in production for over 15 years.

darien99 · #14 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 07:41 PM

My STS was $2600. 155,000 miles. 13.7 in the 1/4 after some tweaks. Headgaskets are original and do not leak.

CadillacSTS2003 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-31-08, 09:41 PM

Me
1998 Seville STS 112k
1997 ETC went 100K before HG failure which the dealer covered half of since they replaced the engine before due to them failing to tighten an oil cooler line
1996 Deville (sold at 145k)
1993 ETC (sold at 112k)