Oh come on people.... Mr. Lincoln is a troll... nothing more, nothing less, and one who seems endowed with more bias than straight-up common sense. I mean... anyone who comes to a Cadillac forum and registers a username of "Lenny Lincoln" is only looking to
The fact remains... it's easier to remain blinded by hypocrisy than it is to open one's eyes. There's no possible way that he was honestly looking to have his mind changed because he refuses to listen.
I hate to break it to you Mr. Lincoln... but all cars have their problems, Lincoln's are no exception and if you say otherwise - you're a liar. If the average repair cost on a Lincoln is cheaper than a Cadillac... then there's VERY GOOD REASON... you know why? That's because:
A.) They're a dinosaur that rides on a platform which is 30(!) years old now, and..
B.) They're nothing but a superficially gussied-up, glorified Ford.
So... if we apply the basic law of syllogism to this situation in that:
Lincolns are only Fords with shiny bits and higher price tags; Fords and their parts commonplace and cheap; therefore Lincolns and their parts are commonplace and cheap, as would be repairs to such.
A Lincoln is nothing more than a premium Ford... there's nothing special, nor exotic about them and the only thing that makes possibly makes them unique is their complete and utter lack of uniqueness.
The Ford modular V8??? Does your mind honestly make any kind of comparison between that and the Northstar... or even to
any GM V8 for that matter? It's nothing more than a giant heap of pig-iron... and how on earth do they manage to "squeeze" such a small amount of power out of such a large displacement? Moreover... why on earth would one want a truck engine in their "luxury" car? It may have not been originally in there, but the fact remains it wound up in the F150... So how could one possibly compare that to an engine that was purpose built to compete in the luxury market? I'm not even that big of a fan of OHC design... but if you're going to do it, why would you only give it a single cam and 16 valves like the one in your Town Car... what's the point?
And it's not like the modular doesn't have it's own, more than fair share of problems my friend.... The last time I checked, there was never a class-action lawsuit against Cadillac/GM over the Northstar. Hmmm... did you know about that, or would you just rather ignore that as well? In '96, Ford began installing defective intake manifolds on the 2-valve 4.6's... and the continued using them on vehicles manufactured through '01 (up to some '02 MY vehicles) and they did this despite knowing full well there were some serious problems with it... Yes, the Northstar has some problems... problems caused largely from poor and improper maintenance... but NOTHING quite like Ford installing defective manifolds which had this uncanny tendency to crack at the front of the crossover which would then leak coolant and subsequently cause overheating and/or catastrophic engine failure. Then they were kind enough to offer a recall on fleet vehicles... but gave a big "up yours" to the average customer which led them being taken to court because they refused to do the right thing.
And then you have the nerve to balk about depreciation?? Do you know what depreciates as much, if not more than a Cadillac?
That's right... a Lincoln. Let's take a look at two top of the line cars - a 2002 Lincoln Town Car Cartier L and a 2002 Cadillac Deville DTS, both were compared with similar options and the same mileage - 72,000 (12K/year)...
The price, when new for the Town Car was $49,235 and the Deville was $47,880...
Kelly Blue Book puts both at $17K... for the Town Car, that's a depreciation of 65.5% over 6 years and the Deville at 64.5% of the same time.
NADA again, surprisingly gives them the same value - $14K each... so that's 71.6% lost on the Town Car and 70.8% on the Deville.
However... Edmunds (which I've always found to be the most accurate reflection of actual market values), lists the Town Car at $12,950 and the Deville at $14,600. SO... that's a depreciation of 73.7% on the TC and only 69.6%.
So even though the depreciation on Cadillacs really is sad... that makes the rate of loss on Lincolns absolutely pathetic.... AND I don't even think that was the most proper of comparisons since the Town Car is supposed to be Lincoln's top of the line flagship model... technically speaking, the Seville was Cadillac's top of the line flagship... if I had done that it would have made the contrast stand out all the more.
The purpose of you post was never to actually gather information or to actually learn anything... all it was meant to do was to ruffle some feathers... you had no intention of being talked into buying a new Cadillac. You came to your conclusion from 'everything [you] read" on the forums about the Northstar.... Well... HELLO??? Obviously a site meant to help research and fix problems on a car will have a high number of posts containing problems about that car... it's one of the biggest points of the forum. What about that don't you realize??? It's like that on any and every forum for any and every car.... and like Jim (submariner) pointed out.... any of the problems reported on this site represent a very small number compared to the amount actually shipped.... most people who come to this site do so originally because the have a problem, plain and simple.
Unfortunately for you... I have way too much time on my hands currently and can take the time to point out all the errors of you logic and ways... I'm not saying this to be mean... but a Northstar Cadillac is obviously not for you... not because they're bad engines or cars - because they're not in the least bit.... but because you seem totally incapable of appreciating them for what they are, and that is a world-class engine built into fine, much above average automobiles... not some big, gas-guzzling dinosaur riding on a platform that was put into production during the Carter administration.
Even if you had shown some propensity to read... it would be very easy to find out that if you're honestly looking for a newer, bigger Deville, but find the Northstar to be so appalling... Cadillac actually did make the bigger, newer body style Deville with the 4.9 in the base models from '94 to '95 or '96, if I recall... So there, all of your problems have been solved.
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