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Old 05-26-07, 04:39 PM
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any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

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i am killing myself trying to put these back in. i have 2 done. but literally have to take a 10 minute break. because i was pushing so hard. i oiled up the o-ring too.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

Clean all the fuel out of the injector openings.
Get a rag, put some motor oil on it and if you can wipe the inner radius of the rail with the rag or something you can get in there.
The gas will wash the oil off if you don't get it out of the way.
Keep the injector straight and push and they should slide right in.
Don't forget to put the retainers on the top and snap them in place to hold the injectors in the rail.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

What I do is put it in at kind of an angle and twist/wiggle it in. Double check that they gave you the right o-rings.... if it takes longer than 2 seconds, something's wrong.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

Sometimes I actually have an oil cap full of oil and dip the end of the injector right in.
It won't hurt it.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

cool thanks for the info. i found wiggling it to help, instead for trying to force it right in. i got them all in and the car starts fine. but it sounds kinda rough. took it for a spin and PC0300 code popped up. it seems like its back firing a little when idling.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

300 is a random misfire, right? Probably have a vacuum leak somewhere. Double check that you reconnected the FPR vacuum line.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

yep, its connected. do you think the fuel injectors could be shitty. and yes the P0300 is a engine misfire code. i just took it for another spin. it is still running rough and throwing the code.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

How old are the wires? A misfire after the fuel rail recall is common from moving old heat cycled wires around. It happened to me.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

plugs and wires are less than a year old. and the fuel line was recalled a long time before i bought the car.

again i did buy the injectors used off ebay so they could be a problem or would injectors not cause these problems. maybe it was something i forgot to do when putting everything back together.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

Check the plug wires. Maybe you didn't quite seat one all the way.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

yeah, i just went out and took the beauty cover off. ill check the wires. so you guys def. dont think its the injectors.

oh yeah. i did make a boo boo. first time i started the car. i didnt have the four front wires in.


edit: whoops looks like i made a second boo boo. i put the #4 wire in the the #2 spark plug hole. is this bad? did i screw anything up permanently?

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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

It's possible. Why did you have the injectors out in the first place?
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

the reason i replaced the injectors was that some were leaky (mechanic told me this) so i decided to find another set of injectors. found a good deal on ebay, bought the whole intake with connectors and injectors for $50.

so i replaced the ebay one's today. hoping that it would correct my hard start when the engine is hot. i have replaced the FPR recently but it did not help. the injectors seem to be good. theres no hesitation when driving after taking the foot off the gas for a couple seconds and back on. normally that problem is associated with a dirty throttle body. but that has been cleaned. when i first got the car it was so thick with black stuff it wasnt funny.

but yeah mainly i switched out the injectors because of the hard hot start.

edit: would having wire number 4 in plug number 2 cause any lasting problems? it runs smooth as butter now and starts great. i only drove with the wires incorrect for about 5 minutes. i did give it some hard WOTs to see if it would fix the roughness and misfires.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

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edit: would having wire number 4 in plug number 2 cause any lasting problems?
Absolutely. #4 is firing when #2 should be and vice versa. Your firing order is wrong and thus you have a misfire.
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Re: any tips for inserting fuel injector back into fuel rail?

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edit: would having wire number 4 in plug number 2 cause any lasting problems?
Naw, you can't hurt anything, but you can make a lot of racket. As long as the starter didn't get chewed up, you're fine.
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