Northstar Engines and System Technical Discussion Discussion, Oil Additives... BBOB?? and others.... in Cadillac Engine Technical Discussion; I read the debate on using STP and how it was worthless.... Any thoughts on Lucas oil supplement.... Its the ...
In fifty years the only oil additive I've found that does anything useful is GM EOS. I first ran across it in the 50's and have used it for assembly oil ever since because of its galling protection. STP had to pay off the biggest consumer fraud fine in history, over $600,000 to the FTC, because they couldn't prove it had any value at all. It came out in a civil case between partners in Slick 50 that their motor treatment is reclaimed crankcase drainings and ground up scrap plastic. All the rest of the snake oils that have been for sale since the dawn of the auto industry have their following with little scientific data to justify their longevity. I suppose they can claim they don't hurt anything. Among mechanical industry veterans it is pretty well agreed that Caterpillar has the best handle on lubrication science going. When they get ready to endorse "Duck Butter" I'll listen.
I generally do not support the use of oil additives. If the oil is properly chosen to meet the needs of both the engine and the driving conditions (mainly ambient temps), I believe an additive is a waste of money and in many cases could actually be counter-productive.
All I know is NASCAR had a mushroom flattappet rule circa 1980, and the mushroom flattappet lifter had a .960 foot on it and was a bastard. Leavin them soak in EOS when I went to the house, cured all problems. Did the same for bearings to rockers.....and camshaft lobes. Great Stuff!
most oil additives tend to be viscosity improvers, or they will be a concoction of anti friction or wear additives. most are just great money makers. just think the ones with the highest price and biggest advertising budget are usually the worst.
I moved south from Draime Racing in 1978 and built for MC Anderson Racing in Georgia, Buddy Baker, Benny Parsons and for Valvoline and Cale Yarborough. I was the Cylinderhead specialist, (ie Porting etc) and built backup engines. Valvoline was helpful in understanding lubrication . Using GM EOS was a bonus, as my engines rode the truck til needed. I only had one major win, but it was the 1982 Southern 500 at Darlington. Damn nervous day for me...LOL
ljkalibur, I was lucky enough to get to go to the night race at Bristol last year. My nephew manages the second most profitable NAPA store in the world so we were comped by DEI. There is absolutely nothing in the world that matches NASCAR for the show and the wonderful people involved. My hat is off to you and all your brethren. The quality of the craftsmanship I saw is unequaled anywhere.
TY Koz, but it is much more Pro today. Bristol is my fav track, but it wasn't fancy in my time. I am from the days of cast iron heads etc. NASCAR builders used to work 70 to 80 hour weeks and make excuses to the Mrs..LOL The sport really grew. Proud of them.
I like to think we started a good thing, running up and down the roads...just racing.