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Northstar Engines and System Technical Discussion Discussion, Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor in Cadillac Engine Technical Discussion; I'm in Greenville, SC 29687. Any suggestions on a shop around here would be greatly appreciated. I went to half ...
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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    I'm in Greenville, SC 29687. Any suggestions on a shop around here would be greatly appreciated. I went to half a dozen local shops and they either want the same price to give me a used engine with no kind of warranties or they straight up say they dont want to get involved with it. The only thing I'm worried about with having someone else do it is that if they do start running into things I quickly won't be able to afford it. But like you said it will be too late at that point. $4500 or so would be the far max of my budget. I could come up with a few more dollars if that was the difference between getting the car back or not but things wouldn't be cool here (my wife would kill me).

    The TCC solenoid is already bad so I was planning to replace that. Good Call BTW!!! One of the shops said if I brought a new one in he'd install it for $300 which isn't the end of the world...I just didn't feel all that confident in them after he told me there were two solenoids in there TCC and another one and they are both on the bottom of the tranny. I pretty sure that I found on here that it is in the top of the tranny. So either I was looking at the wrong thing all together or he's mistaken. He could be accurate on that I suppose...but I will need to investigate further I guess.

    The work you listed in #2 doesn't sound too too bad though. The general consensus seems to be that the bearings, rings etc would be ok left if alone? That would be good news.

    If there is any leads on a shop around here I would love to talk so them.

    Thanks for your time!

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Rob you're less than 100 miles from the Cadillac Forums resident (though absent of late) DeVille/Nortstar Guru. AJxtcman is what he goes by on the forum and he's in Rock Hill. I've communicated with him VIA email a couple of times in the last few weeks so he is still kicking but he doesn't seem to be so into the forum on a daily basis any longer. If you can get him to fix your car you are golden. Don't try to PM him as he never answered mine. Contact him by email at caleditor@pcmcalibrators.com. The last part is also his web-site. Now I don't know what he's going to say because I wasn't here when he took his leave and I have no clue why he left and what he's willing to do, but at the very least he can tell you where to go for good service locally.

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Thanks allot!! I did see that he was close when I was reading some other threads, but I couldn't tell what kind of business he was in. I just sent him an email, we'll see what happens. Again I greatly appreciate it sir!

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Quote Originally Posted by robjpiel View Post
    I couldn't tell what kind of business he was in.
    He's a Tech at a Caddy dealer (or at least he was last I was aware).

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Thanks Ranger, I should have mentioned that being it was so relevant and important. Here's what he has at the bottom of his emails.

    Lead Calibrator at PCM Calibrators
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    Suffice to say he's probably the most qualified and experienced anywhere near the OP.

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Yeah he used to live about 1:30 NE of me up in MKE. Never met him though.
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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Yep, AJ knows his Northstars. He just had a classified ad for cylinder heads and miscellaneous parts. ALL of his stuff is still in here - begin with the sticky above this thread - Northstar head gasket failure and root causes - that's ONE of his works. Look at his threads in PCM Tuning.

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Thanks for setting me up with him folks. He's going to give me quotes on a couple different options. I definitely feel better now dealing with someone that Everybody is validating.

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    So I have a question. What's the latest and greatest source for a reman or crate 2000 + N*
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    U should have daveyhouse rebuild ur motor. He is pretty good. Or dedicated.

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Well the car only has 90k on it but I have an HG issue. I have a local guy who'll do the job for $3000 but I was just wondering at that cost, what's it cost just to replace the motor with new
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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    This is what I found...

    Brand New = $4200 + install up to $6000
    Rebuilt $3000 including install - all the way up to $6000

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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    My train of thought was 50 - 75% or the labor will be done doing the HG job as well so whatever the labor on the engine swap is, I'm going to pay that either way.

    So if a reman engine is $3000 and the HG job is $3000 but say $500 of that is the removal / replacement then for an additional $500 of the HG job I could have a fresh engine. I know most of the time is spent on the Time-Serting proccess

    Maybe my numbers are off a bit but you see my thinking.
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    Re: Rebuilt 4.6 from Davis Auto Repair or Cadillac Doctor

    Quote Originally Posted by robjpiel View Post
    This is what I found...

    Brand New = $4200 + install up to $6000
    Rebuilt $3000 including install - all the way up to $6000
    I wasn't able to find anyone to do any kind of swap out for less than $1000 in labor yet, that was some shady place too, everyone else wanted $2000. So add a new $4200 or rebuilt engine $3000(if you can find one that you can trust). The rebuilt installed for $3000 was only at the place in Ohio...haven't found that Anywhere else. Other than that it was $3000 just for the reman engines off Ebay. Sorry should have made that clearer...

    I think I see what you are hoping for though. If I had the head gasket issue I would keep the engine unless you don't mind spending an additional 2-3k. From what I have read on here the bottom end is bullet proof and if you fix the HG for $3000 I guess you would typically be in pretty good shape. But here I am.... the only idiot in the U.S. with a bottom end problem

    Where are you at in NY? I wish I still lived in Schenectady, I'd have you bring your car over and we could fix both of them for no labor$$$.



    ...And if you do have them do the HG job I would do all of post #14!!

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    I forgot, if you did go with a reman engine (or new) they seem to have great warranties out there IF its installed by a licensed or certified shop...but none of the warranties I found covered labor. Just something else to consider

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    Bottom end? U can get a good core motor with bad heads for 200. Any yard should have one. Than insert the block. THAN find a shop to do the swap?

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