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Northstar Engines and System Technical Discussion Discussion, 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today... in Cadillac Engine Technical Discussion; Well I decided to get into it today... But I am taking a very casual approach to begin. One of ...
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    Well I decided to get into it today... But I am taking a very casual approach to begin. One of the main things is making sure the job is as easy as it can be and that I'm not frustrated by not having the right equipment or tools... That being said, I already faced one frustration by trying to de-couple the fuel lines with plastic disconnect tools... My advice... Get the metal ones!

    Anyway, I am going to drop the cradle I have an engine hoist, a pallet jack and plenty of jack stands, including 2 extra tall ones, so that should help. I have been plugging along and am at step 36 in the FSM (p. 6-85) which says to separate the drive axles from the steering knuckle... My question is if I am dropping everything all together, can't I leave the axles alone?

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    I'll be watching faded. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faded Crest
    I already faced one frustration by trying to de-couple the fuel lines with plastic disconnect tools... My advice... Get the metal ones!
    Oddly enough, I've had an aluminum disconnect tool in my pocket for the last two days. Lol. I was going to take a picture of how to properly use it for a thread in the FWD forums, but I got side tracked.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Hope the rest of the project goes better than disconnecting the fuel lines went. I've never had any trouble decoupling the fuel lines with the plastic tool. Mines an older set made by Mac tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00 Deville
    I've never had any trouble decoupling the fuel line with the plastic tool. Mines an older set made by Mac tools.
    I wonder if the thickness of the plastic collar would effect how well the tool worked.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Thanks MC! BTW, you got me thinking about what I'm going to for the cam covers and beauty cover... Probably just silver... (you know me) Or if I get crazy, maybe black...

    The more I sit here and recall in my mind the other threads I have read about HG jobs and dropping the cradle, I seem to remember someone saying to just hang the calipers, disconnect the stuts and bring it all down... Argh! So many different threads I have read and I can't remember what I read where! :annyoed:

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Personally I think the covers would look really cool painted black with the same Cadillac body paint, if you want to go to the trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faded Crest
    Thanks MC! BTW, you got me thinking about what I'm going to for the cam covers and beauty cover... Probably just silver... (you know me) Or if I get crazy, maybe black...
    Some words of warning:

    -The original powder coat on the cam covers/cassettes was a royal PITA to remove. Took a long while with chemical stripping. I'm not sure if the fact that they were cleaned in a hot tank by Coburn (after which they were bubbling and peeling) before going to the body shop had anything to do with this, but I doubt it (if anything it probably made it easier)

    -The surface finish quality on the cam covers is pretty bad. Most of the pits/defects were in the cassette "valleys" but there were plenty of nasty blemishes on the rest of the surfaces as well (I'm assuming this is why they didn't use a gloss paint in the first place). Luckily for me, almost all of the flaws are hidden by the plastic radiator/headlight cover, and the rear cover benefits from being more hidden. If you'd like, I can take pictures tomorrow and post then here.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    I wonder if the thickness of the plastic collar would effect how well the tool worked.
    I would say yes. It was like night and day using the cheap flimsy plastic ones vs. the aluminum ones I bought today. 2 hours vs. 5 seconds. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    If you'd like, I can take pictures tomorrow and post then here.
    Yeah, post pics if you don't mind. The paint on these is horrible. Probably the worst looking covers I've seen. And the beauty cover is cracked and crappy anyway, so hopefully I can score a better one at pull-a-part. You think media blasting would work on the covers?

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    Neither i or my paint/body guy didn't felt comfortable media blasting the cassettes (it creates A LOT of static). I don't see why you couldn't media blast the covers themselves though, they're just magnesium.

    I assume he just did those chemical because he thought it'd be faster and easier....But no.

    I had to replace my cover as well. I was storing parts in my living room (don't use it) and my mastiff chased a ball into the room and stepped on it. SNAP!

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Are the original covers painted or powder coated?

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    I'm almost positive it was powder coated. It was tough stuff. The beauty cover is paint though.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    The paint/powder coat has bubbled on my covers. Really looks like crap.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    You don't have to disconnect the steering knuckle. All you need to remove from the steering components is the pinch bolt that connects the intermediate shaft. You can either keep the brake system intact or remove the lines. I just removed the brake lines from the master cylinder and the coupling near the rear of the cradle for rear brakes (that way the brake lines and the EBTCM comes out with the cradle). It seemed to be easier and I didn't want components hanging from the body. Also a brake fluid replacement as a bonus at the end of the job.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Thanks Maeng9981, I thought that was the case. I stopped dead in my tracks last night as soon as I popped the first axle through the knuckle because I was sure people were doing it different from the manual. I guess it might be different at a dealership since they have the means to lower the cradle on to a table, then raise the car up far enough to completely clear the knuckles.

    On the brakes, you think it's easier to disconnect the lines at the master cylinder rather than keeping it the system closed? What would be the difference? Just disconnecting the EBTCM from the cradle and tying it off?

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Going under... Does this qualify as paranoid? LOL


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