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Northstar Engines and System Technical Discussion Discussion, 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today... in Cadillac Engine Technical Discussion; Originally Posted by ternstes Faded, I am all for giving you my crank out of my 99. I should have ...
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Quote Originally Posted by ternstes View Post
    Faded, I am all for giving you my crank out of my 99. I should have it out this weekend (crosses fingers). I need to find a good way to ship it, though. I wonder about using some expanding foam around it inside the box to protect it from damage...
    Thanks Roger, I really appreciate your generosity. By the way, I enjoyed talking to you by phone today.

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Quote Originally Posted by Faded Crest View Post
    Thanks Roger, I really appreciate your generosity. By the way, I enjoyed talking to you by phone today.

    Marc
    Actually, wrong person....

    Nice talking to you also...


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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Ha! Didn't even notice! Thank you both! Ternserts, that is a really nice offer. Roger actually offered me one too and is getting it out on Monday or so.
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    How'd he go about packing it??

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Glad you got a crankshaft. As long as it's packaged nice and tight, especially the ends where packages ususally get dropped on it should be fine. Foam padding and bubble wrap would be a good idea along with a very sturdy box.

    Good luck...

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Fellas,

    Sounds like overkill, but going this deep into the motor, new bearings, cranks etc, I'd seriously recommend a new oil pump. Shop around and you'll find them reasonable. The number you need is a melling M 188.

    The oil pump is the heart, the oil is the bloold of the motor.


    You don't want to have a heart attack after all this surgery........

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    Ha ha, so which one of us is sending you a crank?

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Well I got some great news today... Went to the machine shop to get my heads and took the crankshaft with me just in case it wasn't as bad as I thought. It turns out that it matched up to original specs! I certainly didn't expect that. He said it looks worse than it is and just to polish it and get original size bearings. Woohoo! So thank you guys so much for your very generous offers, but it looks like I'm all set with my original crankshaft!

    I got my heads back too. He said they did have to be leveled, so it's a good thing I took them in.

    By the way, credit to Sub for saying that would be all it needed in the first place. I just got spooked when I saw the scoring.
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Glad to hear your good (no need to spend more money!) news on the crank.

    Cheers,
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Well to go with my good news, I also did something very stupid today...

    When I removed the crankshaft, I did things out of order... I removed the rod bearing caps first, then went to remove the timing chain. Normally this wouldn't matter, but I forgot to remove the crankshaft bolt first! I couldn't get enough on it to break it loose because the crank was completely free from the rods, just resting on the upper main bearings. Finally I put a small screwdriver through a flywheel hole which allowed me to break the bolt loose, but in doing so, I got the crankshaft into a bind pulling the timing chain super tight!

    The problem was that every time I tried to turn the crank back to get it to re-seat into the upper mains, an exposed journal made contact with a piston rod which made me nervous... So I wound up removing all the pistons so I could spin the crankshaft freely and get it to re-seat in order to put the slack back into the timing chain... Rookie mistake.

    Oh well, on the bright side, I can see that all the rings look good and none are cracked.
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    Glad to hear your crank can still be used! Reassembly should be a breeze! Do you have a new oil manifold plate?

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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Yes, got the new oil manifold plate from Chris at Rippy along with a few other things. I now have to order the main and rod bearings now that I know what size I need.... Then I can finally get the bottom end back together.
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Speaking of manifold plates ....

    I got one from RockAuto, a Victor-Reinz GS33431, and it looks just like the old one I pulled off. I believe I read that this plate was upgraded sometime between 2000 & now - so the question is "Do I have the newest, correct, oil distribution plate?"

    Marc, hope I didn't hijack your thread (too much).

    Cheers,
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Quote Originally Posted by eyewonder View Post
    Speaking of manifold plates ....

    I got one from RockAuto, a Victor-Reinz GS33431, and it looks just like the old one I pulled off. I believe I read that this plate was upgraded sometime between 2000 & now - so the question is "Do I have the newest, correct, oil distribution plate?"

    Marc, hope I didn't hijack your thread (too much).

    Cheers,
    Steve

    No worries Steve... You could almost combine our threads since we seem to be walking side by side.

    By the way, the gasket set and bolts I got on are Victor-Reinz.
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    Re: 98 ETC Head Gasket project started today...

    Good to hear the progress FC, Your Eldo's going to love you for it!

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