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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    how do i get norms inserts?
    and what is the difference between norms and jakes??

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    Norm's are threaded inserts that go into the block that original style head bolts screw into... Jake's design are studs tat you put into the block and you use nuts to fasten the heads down.

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    so whose are better? and whose are more difficult to install?

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    Who's package is more difficult to install?

    I just finished drilling & taping my block for Norm's inserts, but have never done Jake's. I have read Jake's procedure posted on his web site, and seen pictures. Both do utilize the same general procedure: use a jig fixture (centered over the old hole) to drill out the old threads in preparation for taping for inserts/studs. After each hole is drilled, a bushing for the tap is installed in the jig, and the hole is taped, by hand. You do this for all 20 bolt holes. The procedure for Norm's then calls for applying lock-tite to the insert & threads in the block, and inserting to a specific depth. Jake has a procedure that is specific to the dimensions of his studs.

    I elected to go with Norm's inserts - because I could get them! I also chose to go with ARP studs in Norm's inserts. If you do that, let him know, as there is a slight difference in inserts when using new GM head bolts, or the ARP studs. The combo of Norm's inserts & ARP studs ended up being approximately $100 more that Jake's package.

    Having done only 1 of the two procedures, but read the other, it seems that the actual work for either would be the same.

    Information on Norm is at: www.HuhnSolutions.com . The studs are ARP part # 141-4204 (for Dodge SRT4 & PT Cruiser), and you will need two of the stud packages.

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    Quote Originally Posted by lynbr View Post
    so whos are better? and whos are more difficult to install?
    6 of one, half dozen of the other. As mentioned, installation is about the same.

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    Wonder if anyone in the forum might know of a service provider in the Phoenix, AZ area who is competent and experienced in performing the Sure Grip stud kit restoration.

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    Call or e-mail Jake. www.northstarperformance.com

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    Re: Time Serts, Norm's, SureGrip Stud Kit??????

    Evrett Here, i will look into our files and see if i am able to locate a shop approved by us.

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