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    Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    The delorean would be a great car to do one since some of you are doing it with the Fiero.

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    It has been done before and looks like a nice swap
    http://www.entermyworld.com/gallery/dmc-memphis-2002

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    The Fiero's engine compartment is bigger (if you eliminate the rear storage area) than the DeLorean's, especially with some of the non-engine related electronics in the DMC-12's trunk which cannot be easily moved.

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorb750 View Post
    The Fiero's engine compartment is bigger (if you eliminate the rear storage area) than the DeLorean's, especially with some of the non-engine related electronics in the DMC-12's trunk which cannot be easily moved.
    No trunk mods are needed on a Fiero
    I did, but I have seen it done without on other cars.
    The trunk is strange shaped. It looks like it was designed for a spare tire.

    The question of the topic.

    I have a 56 Triumph TR3 I have always planned on a 6.0L LS2. Hmmmm. Now I am leaning toward the Northstar. After reading about the Shelby Series 1 and driving my Fiero with the LS1 PCM I have decided to sell my 6.0L.

    I think the Best car for a Northstar would be a ............. um I am still looking. I have a spare Northstar or two, so I have been looking.
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    Sports cars
    • RX7: I have one and want to sell. I have own 12 of them and I can't do a swap to it.
    • 240Z to 280Z: I have assisted on V8 swaps before. I looked at a few Rust Free cars on eBay this weekend.
    • Miata: Too much Ford for me. GM and FORD is a No No.
    • Jaguar: I don't know much about them, but it could only raise the value. Remove a SBC and install a 350hp+ Northstar.
    • Opel GT: I looked, but the price for a rust free is too much.
    • Camaro: I could see this. Buy a V6 car and do a swap.
    • Triumphs: TR6, TR7, TR8, They would be nice or a GT6 or a Spitfire. Yeah that would work. Very cheap parts.
    • Kit cars: I would say anything NOT based off a VW Bug. A Sebring MX would be nice

    Big cars and Hot Rods
    • Any 1960 and prior GM car.
    • Studebaker's: a Hawk or an Avanti

    Trucks
    • S10 2wd trucks: The Northstar would work great and be a good conversation piece.
    • S10 Blazer: Light weight and it will work better than a SBC
    • 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's: truck of your choice. Any thing that has got a SBC in the past

    Kit Cars can be fun.

    The guy with the Mclaren on the LS1 PCM thread is planning on 700+ hp with twin turbo's

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    A replica Jaguar XJ220

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    what RWD transmission can be used with the northstar? I want to build a spitfire with a different powerplant but never really considered a n*

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    A 700-R4 with a 2.8L bolt patter will "mostly" bolt up to a North* you need to clearance for the internal starter... This can be done "cleanly" with a die grinder and a TIG welder or you can just hack a hole.

    I've always wanted to swap a N* into a Cimarron and then run 11 second quarters

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    I'd do it on a car that was easy to remove the engine from... in case of head gasket failure. On a serious note, a N* Delorean sounds like fun.

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    Good point... A better step would be to timesert the block while the swap engine is out...

    About 1/2 of the cost of a timesert job is the Re&re of the engine the next 1/3rd is the cost of the labor to dismantle the engine insert the timeserts and put it all back together the timesert kit the head bolts and the gaskets (while not cheap) are only about 1/6 of the cost of this project.

    If I were swapping a N* into ANYthing the first thing I would do is timesert the block whether it needed it or not. If you are a DIY kinda guy (and most engine swappers are) a timesert job will cost you only about $700 if buy the 'sert kit and all of the parts at OEM prices. Buy & Sell the kit on ebay and the project could be done for less then $500.

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    what about a manual transmission?

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    Same, any clutch/bellhousing that bolts to a 2.8L narrow angle V6 will bolt (after clearancing for the starter) to a northstar... 5 Speed trannys from late 80's S10's are a good pick.

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    Currently my LS1 program is only for a manual trans.


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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    The spitfire would be the best out of that list,
    The tilt front end makes it easy to do a swap and the front suspension doesnt intrude into the engine area. you would have to change the rear diff since they barely hold up to an anemic 4 cyl.
    I have had two spitfires and an opel GT, the opel is a much nicer car but would be harder to swap.

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    Re: Idea for vehicle to do Northstar swap on.

    I have always thought a small FWD car would be a cool sleeper. I like the Cimarron idea, I hadn't thought of that car before. I had always just had a normal GM like a cavalier or something in mind.

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