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HT4100 4.1, 4.5, 4.9 Discussion, e23 and e27 in Cadillac Engine Technical Discussion; I still say your looking at the pick up coil and at this point is worth the try and far ...
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    Re: e23 and e27

    I still say your looking at the pick up coil and at this point is worth the try and far less than a motor swap...

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Screw it , I'm done. I'd rather burn the stupid thing before I spend another dime on it. Today while driving , the car shut off and would not restart. I had fuel pressure , but no spark. When i removed the coil cover the wire to the positive side was burned . I replaced the coil with a brand new one , but still have no spark . It cranks over fine and has plenty of fuel . Not even a weak spark though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Hearse View Post
    Screw it , I'm done. I'd rather burn the stupid thing before I spend another dime on it.
    I hear this a lot when people talk about their Cadillac

    Been there, said that myself

    CODE 23...this still points to the pickup coil...

    and the spark is controlled by the ICM...

    What people fail to understand is that car parts that sit are failures waiting to happen. You've still not changed the parts that effected you from the beginning, only another distributor from a car that sat, which (by the way) made the car run right at first. Change all the parts listed, if nothing works, then burn the car.

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Check for blown fuses also...

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    Re: e23 and e27

    pulled the distributor again today. tested the pick up coil as per my service book , with a reading of infinity, meaning it is indeed good. im going to go ahead and replace it on payday however, along with the ICM ,and that other part that looks like a condenser. i really dont know what else could be causing the problems im having , so i figure ill start completely fresh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Hearse View Post
    pulled the distributor again today. tested the pick up coil as per my service book , with a reading of infinity, meaning it is indeed good.
    Did you spin the distributor while testing? The pick up coil breaks a magnetic field which relays info to the ICM and fuel system as to cam positioning and timing. Sometimes a bench test with a meter doesn't tell the whole story. If a resistor is burned up yet is dependent upon current to be active, then again, the bench test would say "good" to problem that would not show itself until electrified.

    Like I said before, this one is not as easy to detect and can be a little tricky....

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    Re: e23 and e27

    I would buy a new distributor before i rebuilt the old one. I haven't priced out the difference but I think a new one is reasonable at around $150.

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac_al View Post
    I would buy a new distributor before i rebuilt the old one. I haven't priced out the difference but I think a new one is reasonable at around $150.
    It cost me $380 to by my last one...

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Quote Originally Posted by the recluse View Post
    It cost me $380 to by my last one...
    ???

    I can get them from the local parts store here for $88 my cost, $125 yours, lifetime warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsdeville View Post
    ???

    I can get them from the local parts store here for $88 my cost, $125 yours, lifetime warranty.
    WOW they saw me coming...this was about 4 years ago though...

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Well, there could be differences in the dressing as well though.

    The $88.$125 one is the housing, shaft/rotor mounting plate, gear, and ignition module. Doesn't come with a pickup coil, hall effect, cap, rotor or coil.

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Quote Originally Posted by drewsdeville View Post
    Well, there could be differences in the dressing as well though.

    The $88.$125 one is the housing, shaft/rotor mounting plate, gear, and ignition module. Doesn't come with a pickup coil, hall effect, cap, rotor or coil.
    Mine was plug n play...

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    Re: e23 and e27

    today i got off early from work , so i hit the parts store. i bought all new internals for the distributor, and got it running great. even better than before. on the way home i threw a alternator belt and codes 12 , 23 , and 44 popped up . i have deciphered them to mean as follows,

    E12 - No Distributor Signal

    E23 - EST Signal Problem

    E44 - Oxygen Sensor Signal Lean


    would the lack of sufficent voltage cause these codes to pop up? i had about a 5 mile drive and th service now light came on. car still ran great, even with no charge.

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    Re: e23 and e27

    replaced the belt, cleared the codes, so far so good... but its a cadillac and it knows i got paid , something is bound to happen...

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    Re: e23 and e27

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Hearse View Post
    today i got off early from work , so i hit the parts store. i bought all new internals for the distributor, and got it running great. even better than before.
    You're welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Hearse View Post
    ...its a cadillac and it knows i got paid , something is bound to happen...
    I KNOW what you mean...

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