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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    You Americans don't know what a traffic jam is untill you've been to the UK!!!

    Yeah, right - and add driving on the wrong side of the road to the mix and you're really screwed!

    Any major metropolitan area has their own traffic horrors. We have a potentially deadly situation up there in Montreal. Take your bloody life in your hands on their roads - they're crazier than Joe C**t's dog; where a red light is seen as more of a "notion" for compliance, than an outright command to do so,,,,,,,

    Then there's always the 16 lanes of 70 mile/hour bumper-to-bumper mayhem through the heart of Toronto - called the 401.

    A bit closer to my neck of the woods is good old HWY 17 - euphemistically known as "Killer Alley" for a very sound reason - more deaths per mile than any other highway in Ontario.

    I own a big old car for a good reason - to survive the above noted trouble zones, because I'm dealing with them on a routine basis..

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Three words, Cross Bronx Expressway. Don't tell me NYC's traffic isn't that bad. That f**king higway (if you can call it that) has taken untold years of my life and miles of my car.

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    What he said! The Cross Bronx is the worst. About 647 times worse than the LIE parking lot. Come Friday about 3:00 or so, You'd get better mileage leaving the car running outside a McDonalds, eating 6 Quarter Pounders, than try to be on either road!

    For what it's worth, having travelled extensively in the US and abroad, the roads in NYC are the worst for traffic congestion. Going less than one mile an hour is up there no? In terms of traffic with the worst driving - gotta be a tie. The Dominican Republic ( why do they even paint lines on the road?) and Naples (Craziest cabbies EVER!!!...and I live in NYC!)

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    LOL... true, all major metros have their horror stories... NYC can get bad... at least the LIE improved significantly in the past 30 years due to 30 years of construction. More lanes, HOV, etc. 50% less traffic compare to back then. Takes me 45-60 mins to reach manhattan from the island (25 miles) now vs. 2-3hrs back then.

    I truly wish they do something about the BQE... damn parking lot, same traffic jams in the exact same spots for the past 30 years, and always the same accident spots every week. You'd think they'd learn and change the traffic pattern. They need to double decker the BQE or build another highway in brooklyn...

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Not to dispute what our European colleague has to say but it seems odd that "we americans" don't know what traffic is when at any given moment 4 of our cities probably have a number of people stuck in traffic greater than the entire popluation of their country.

    Although I am sure traffic is bad there I think it's pretty arrogant for someone in a country of 60 million people to tell a country of 295 Billion that we don't know what traffic is. I wouldn't even turn the tables and assume I know what it's like in another country.
    Heck the worst place in the world for traffic could be Hong Kong for all I know. I only speak for what I have seen though.

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Houston is indeed bad, and the solutions proposed by our oh-so-wise elected officials is "pour more concrete". Amazing. Fortunately my commute is only ~24 miles and goes nowhere near downtown or heavy traffic. My favorite part of traffic is when it's caused or worsened by all the idiots that stare in amazement at the cars on the side of the road with each a dent in their fenders (i.e. had a minor accident). It's like alcohol or drugs - nobody can resist!

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Lots of metropolitan (if not ALL) areas have bad traffic jams at typical hours of the day..I'd invite any of you who haven't driven them to try the Airport Circle in Pennsauken, NJ or some of the other famous New Jersey "roundabouts" during a Friday afternoon in the Summer when it's raining. You circle virgins haven't lived till you've faced down a dump truck with no wiper blades, a bus full of casino blue-hairs, and some nitwit 16 year old girl in a Miata all trying to hit the inside lane of a traffic cirle at 55 mph.. whoooeeeeeeeee

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Quote Originally Posted by STS-in-Nottingham
    You Americans don't know what a traffic jam is untill you've been to the UK!!!
    WOW! STS-in-Nottingham; Takes me back a couple of years when we were walking through Hyde Park in London. There were speed bumps every 400 or 500 feet and from behind we heard the "winding up" of a V12. A totally unique sound in automotive engines, you don't have to look you just know V12. (shit I miss the BMW850, quick somebody just slap me hard, really hard, thanks I needed that!). So we look over and damn no one was driving, then I remembered right hand drive and there was a middle aged babe rowing through the gears an a Ferrari. A rather surrealistic scene, the quiet peace of Hyde Park in the morning in the heart of bustling London and this babe rowing through the gears making the engine sing the sweetest song between the speed bumps. She was having fun. Varoom, shift, varoom and nose dive to a crawl over the bump and varoom shift varoom and nosedive. Something you don't easily forget.

    We saw roads that I would have trouble getting a Smart car down, how do you manage with a STS? You probably would welcome good old $3.00 a gallon gas, it would be cheap for you and we are complaining.

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Now that the Big Dig is completed in Boston, most times the city itself is great! But all the highways leading into and circling the city still suck.

    As for traffic, I don't think I had a worse time than Carlisle, PA during one of their monumental car shows! My friends and I actually got out and played football on the median for 20 minutes!

    NYC sucks because there is congestion wherever you go and at almost anytime, except maybe 2-4AM. They may not have the worst bumper to bumper traffic, but the whole metropolitan area is so damn huge and there are so many people everywhere you go, you need to drive 50 miles away just so you can breathe and have an enjoyable drive.

    And don't even get me started about the drive to Cape Cod!


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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Totally forgot about that! Cape Cod! Far and away the worst driving experience ever. (The 11 hours to go skiing in Vermont doesn't sount because of the snow)

    What's up with the Cape and the single road in? It's probably inappropriate to say, but I think I know why LKennedy drove off into the water!

    Great place. Enough fun to make you forget the drive and go back, but it can be brutal to get there for a 4th of July weekend kind of thing

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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    I don't know how people do it. I live on the North Shore of MA, so I'm accustomed to spending my time in Maine, York Beach to be exact. Suits me just fine.

    Nothing like having the entire highway Rte 6 backed up, 20+ miles, just to get off Cape Cod on a Sunday afternoon.


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    Re: Bad Traffic...

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyArizona
    Ok I need to get this off my chest so...rant ON !

    IF you DO NOT live in any part of California, Arizona, Texas (Houston and the Big D), or Florida; you have NO right to complain about bad traffic! You want bad traffic, come here and I'll show you BAD TRAFFIC! It took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to get to work today, I live about 30 miles from my job! I don't mind driving in traffic but that gives you no right to complain about bad traffic if you live in any area that I didn't mention. I don't consider NYC to have bad traffic because less than 30% of the people living there actually drive!

    Ok...rant off I'm nice again
    uhh...it takes me over an hour to drive to work every day and I live less than 30 miles away. Plus there is always traffic on the Beltway no matter the time of day. We don't have really have "rush hour" here because there is traffic pretty much all the time.

    Rockville Pike (355) is one of, if not the most heavily traveled stretches of road in the US.

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