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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post
    Ironically, from reports of those who have met you, I think you personally would pass that test too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Dullahan View Post

    So was the last one...and the one before that...

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    The original Navigator was nice. I think it was the '07 where the grille got ugly.

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    Lincoln: what a luxury car SHOULDN'T be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93DevilleUSMC View Post

    The original Navigator was nice. I think it was the '07 where the grille got ugly.
    Meh. I always thought they looked like ugly Expeditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave View Post

    Ironically, from reports of those who have met you, I think you personally would pass that test too!
    Nonsense. You shouldn't listen to rumours...

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    Quote Originally Posted by 93DevilleUSMC View Post
    The original Navigator was nice. I think it was the '07 where the grille got ugly.
    It sure was. Tastefully styled with a gorgeous interior. That dual-cowl satin nickel dashboard and center stack was elegant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesda View Post
    It sure was. Tastefully styled with a gorgeous interior. That dual-cowl satin nickel dashboard and center stack was elegant.
    Lincoln's ONE CHANCE to rival the Escalade(which the Navigator outsold at one point, right?), and what do they do? Screw it up.

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    Meh. I don't use my Expeditions enough to justify them having an elegant interior. I'll be honest. In the time since I have purchased the last one (Like...Two years) I have spent less-than-twenty minutes actually inside of it.

    Escalades are nice though. I have been known to appreciate them and order them to be delivered to Las Vegas for my sister to drive (As she has been an avid Escalade fan since they were first produced)

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    The most comfortable road trip I ever took was a 16-hour straight shot from Missouri to Florida in a 2003 Navigator. The sound system, Denso navigation, and cushy seats were superb. All the switches and knobs felt like quality and the optitron gauges were soothing. Fuel economy was hilariously bad, but that's the price you pay to drive a box of air!

    Escalades have nicer leather and smoother rides but the trim in the 03-06 Navigator is a bit better looking. Navigator's steering is also vastly superior, surprisingly accurate and communicative while the Escalade requires a lot of correction at highway speeds.

    By 2007, however, the Escalade caught up to the Navigator's preciseness (relative to lumbering boxes) and improved its interior design while the Lincoln went in a very strange direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesda View Post
    The most comfortable road trip I ever took was a 16-hour straight shot from Missouri to Florida in a 2003 Navigator. The sound system, Denso navigation, and cushy seats were superb. All the switches and knobs felt like quality and the optitron gauges were soothing. Fuel economy was hilariously bad, but that's the price you pay to drive a box of air!

    Escalades have nicer leather and smoother rides but the trim in the 03-06 Navigator is a bit better looking. Navigator's steering is also vastly superior, surprisingly accurate and communicative while the Escalade requires a lot of correction at highway speeds.

    By 2007, however, the Escalade caught up to the Navigator's preciseness (relative to lumbering boxes) and improved its interior design while the Lincoln went in a very strange direction.
    The Escalade started as a laughable Yukon badge-engineering exercise that sold like sweet tea and got better with each update. The Navigator started out as a proper Lincoln and stayed so until 2007 when it devolved completely. How ironic that the Navigator's quality nosedived at the same time the Escalade really started hitting it's stride.

    Also, whatever happened to the Aviator? I liked that thing.
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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    This is the kind of Lincoln I get enthusiastic about:



    I understand no one can produce a car like this today and make a good profit, but I miss the times when a luxury car really stood out and was different than the more reasonably priced cars.

    Incidentally, I noticed this morning that Lincoln doesn't even consider Cadillac as the competition. I heard an ad on the radio where they referred to Lincoln as "the other L"
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    Lincoln....the other L.....now that's funny!

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigm57ict View Post
    I heard an ad on the radio where they referred to Lincoln as "the other L"
    I'm surprised they'd admit it.

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    ^ lmao

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    For several years the Lincoln LS was much lauded, but lately I hear they make terrible "used" cars. Apparently they have a history of various component failures and drive train problems. Kind of Lincoln's Catera.

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    Re: A Lincoln that I could be enthusiastic about.

    Quote Originally Posted by 93DevilleUSMC View Post

    Also, whatever happened to the Aviator? I liked that thing.
    Just took one to Miami and back (and sold it to a happy customer). Build quality was much, much better than I expected. Has unique bushings, mounts, powertrain, interior, AWD system, steering, lighting, and suspension. The ZF steering in particular is a really nice touch. It may look like the Explorer on the outside but drives like a completely unique and significantly nicer vehicle.

    And with the 5.4 it takes off hard.


    http://classiccarfinds.com/wp-conten...1/DSC01401.jpg
    http://classiccarfinds.com/wp-conten...1/DSC01408.jpg

    The third row is amusing but could be worse I guess. Tough call between this and the Northstar Sigma SRX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post
    For several years the Lincoln LS was much lauded, but lately I hear they make terrible "used" cars. Apparently they have a history of various component failures and drive train problems. Kind of Lincoln's Catera.
    Some sensors, coil packs (due to water intrusion, there's a fix), and the trannies on early models.

    They're nice cars but Ford-isms worry me. Late model (since 2000) Fords often have minor but annoying issues that require a lot of chasing and guessing to diagnose and repair. I'm dealing with pinging on an F150 at the moment. Possible solutions include: EVERYTHING.

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