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    First Car Dillemmas

    Hello there folks, first time signing up on this forum, and I am in the hunt for my first car. I want to have something that will last during the winter. Everyone pushes for fuel economy, but I want something that's not light and is going to screw me over in the winter.

    I'm thinking about looking into a cadillac, but I have a low budget (willing to spend about $2,000).

    Everyone has told me to stray away from the N*, and I've done extensive research through your forums and other locations to know enough in the event I ever do land with one.

    I don't do well with compact cars, not enough room to be comfortable while driving.

    Any tips as to what caddys to look into? I'm in the Western NY area.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    You are not going to get much for $2000. You want to stay north of the '99 model year. They where the worst for HG failures.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Cadillac and $2000 are mutually exclusive.......... unless you plan on spending 3 X that much in the first year of ownership ...........

    Look at an old Taurus.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    If you are on a low budget you might be better off looking at a Ford Taurus or the equivalent from other makers, not too small & parts are cheap. Any used car older than five years you buy is going to have problems otherwise it probably wouldn't be for sale. So go with something where parts are reasonable.
    One thing you could do is pick a car you like, then go to rockauto.com or whatever your favorite parts store is and see how much things like struts and/or shocks for it cost and things like a/c pumps/alternators, those sore of things. Because like in the struts case, those are what you will probably need to replace at some point if you plan on keeping the car for any length of time over a couple years.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    The guys above speak the truth, the reason Cadillacs and other so called luxury cars are so cheap in the used car marketplace is because they are relatively expensive to fix when things go wrong .... and they many more things to go wrong than a car that cost much less when new. So the above advice is given with good reason and with your best interest at heart.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Usually the old body on frame RWD Fleetwood and Broughams(and Caprice/Roadmasters) are a lot less trouble prone than even the 4.9 V8 FWD cars. Problem is they tend to rust a lot worse than the FWD cars. If you buy a RWD Caddy, put it on a lift before you buy it. The body might look fine, but man they rust like crazy on the underside, frame, brake lines, etc.
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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Aron9000 View Post
    Usually the old body on frame RWD Fleetwood and Broughams(and Caprice/Roadmasters) are a lot less trouble prone than even the 4.9 V8 FWD cars. Problem is they tend to rust a lot worse than the FWD cars. If you buy a RWD Caddy, put it on a lift before you buy it. The body might look fine, but man they rust like crazy on the underside, frame, brake lines, etc.
    Very true, and the parts are a bit cheaper. (..but not much.) If you can do your own work, that might a not be too bad a way to go. You would have to really want it to make it worth while. They are fun cars to drive, but will lighten your wallet in repairs and gas.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Honestly I bought my 1970 Eldorado for $1800 from the first owner back in 1999

    And I bought two '77 Sedan DeVilles for $1900 in 1997...

    I know it's a while back, but it is possible,.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    I agree with you and almost posted the same, but the last thing I want to do is get someone into a car they are not prepared for. We may be better abled/more experienced evaluating the cars, more skilled at repairing them, and more used to hitting junkyards for used parts.

    I hate to be discouraging to a young buyer and turn him away from the joy of driving a vintage Cadillac. I bought my first one at 19 and here I still am. However if he isn't able to keep it on the road it could do the opposite and turn him sour on the cars forever.

    I would look for a decent old RWD and go for it all over again. I am however so in love with them that to paraphrase the old bumper sticker "I would rather push a Cadillac than drive a _____" applies.
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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave View Post
    I agree with you and almost posted the same, but the last thing I want to do is get someone into a car they are not prepared for. We may be better abled/more experienced evaluating the cars, more skilled at repairing them, and more used to hitting junkyards for used parts.

    I hate to be discouraging to a young buyer and turn him away from the joy of driving a vintage Cadillac. I bought my first one at 19 and here I still am. However if he isn't able to keep it on the road it could do the opposite and turn him sour on the cars forever.

    I would look for a decent old RWD and go for it all over again. I am however so in love with them that to paraphrase the old bumper sticker "I would rather push a Cadillac than drive a _____" applies.
    I was 21 when I bought my first Cadillac ('77 SDV) and just learned along the way. I had my BSc in my pocket, but I never had my hands dirty io a car before. Just on my bicycle...
    When you put your heart into it it should prevent you from ruining the car by ignorance.
    Back then they were my daily drivers. Even the Eldorado in 1999/2000 when I was doing flight training in AZ. I got a lot of compliments from people there. Even in non-restored state.

    A flight school buddy of mine bought a '69 Eldorado in Phoenix (for about $2000) while we were there and also had it shipped to Europe. He also still has it.

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    I have no doubt that with $2k you can buy a N* powered Cadillac. However, repair bills "can" add up to $2k in a year, easily! And I am not talking about major engine or transmission works! The truth is repair or maintenance costs are proportional to the car's original price tag, $40-50k, not the current price tag!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben.gators View Post
    I have no doubt that with $2k you can buy a N* powered Cadillac. However, repair bills "can" add up to $2k in a year, easily! And I am not talking about major engine or transmission works! The truth is repair or maintenance costs are proportional to the car's original price tag, $40-50k, not the current price tag!
    True. As long as you have a job you can afford it.When I was kicked out of flight school I had to pay back the loan for 11 shitty years (having a job but had to put back 3/4 of my income on the pay back), an amount I could've bought an apartment for. I didn't even have money to put gas in the car for a cruise around town. I just recently picked up woking on the Eldorado again.

    But I still have it and I will keep it!

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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Quote Originally Posted by VinceKaufman View Post
    Hello there folks, first time signing up on this forum, and I am in the hunt for my first car. I want to have something that will last during the winter. Everyone pushes for fuel economy, but I want something that's not light and is going to screw me over in the winter.

    I'm thinking about looking into a cadillac, but I have a low budget (willing to spend about $2,000).

    Everyone has told me to stray away from the N*, and I've done extensive research through your forums and other locations to know enough in the event I ever do land with one.

    I don't do well with compact cars, not enough room to be comfortable while driving.

    Any tips as to what caddys to look into? I'm in the Western NY area.
    Hi! I'm in Western NY as well, and I have a FWD Cadillac. I have not yet driven it through winter, but people who have driven DeVilles through winter tell me it's great. The fuel economy kind of sucks (17-21 mpg) but you aren't really going to get a heavy car with good economy IMO. I have an 89 Deville that I picked up for 5,700, but it is in pristine condition. I've seen a few others around in your price range. They aren't as pretty, but I bet it's possible to find a decent car. There are a lot of old folks around here that garage their cars, and when they kick the bucket, their families sell their cars off. Seems like nobody wants an old Buick around here, but everybody's got one. Can you stretch your budget a little? Where specifically are you? I can be on the look out if you are close, and spread word though my car friends in Buffalo and Rochester as well.
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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    It is better to buy an old well cared for $2000.00 car cash and maintain it than to take out a loan for a $6000.00 car and have payments big enough that you can't maintain it. They will also need expensive repairs too before the payment book is empty.
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    Re: First Car Dillemmas

    Gary paid $1000 for a early '90's Sedan de Ville years back and he never had that much trouble with it. I do remember him having to rebuild the transmission and a few various small things but otherwise it wasn't too bad. So you can find a decent car for $2k but it will prove difficult.

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