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Community Lounge, Introductions and General Discussion Discussion, What makes a "luxury" car today? in General Discussion; Originally Posted by lacville78 Great find, I hope someone fixes her up. needs some serious TLC. note the rust under ...
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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Quote Originally Posted by lacville78 View Post
    Great find, I hope someone fixes her up.
    needs some serious TLC. note the rust under the top. Also note the former top color of the car in the door jambs...thats some faded paint!
    It would be a cool car. I often wonder what a notchback seville would look like with the windshield raked back an inch or 2....it would make the car make so much more elegant.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Hated those for years, now much like the 73 Riviera I couldn't stand in their day, I have grown to love the oddity of their design. What I really didn't like was the similar look to certain X bodies of the day.

    I mentioned that one to a friend who just got rid of an 80s Jag. (Figuring he was a masochist and might want to buy it!)

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Oddly enough I debated between the CTS-V and a 67-73 RR Sliver Shadow for daily. The only reason the Shadow lost was because I like to shift. There is no substitute for the quality of parts that go into these RR cars. Even being decades old they are more solid than many of todays new plastic cars. And yes the wool floors mats are the !

    Shoot my old Porsche 911SC is still killing some modern cars! Lord knows it is much more gratifying to drive as a purist that these gizmo rockets.

    Whoever is bagging on the hyundai Genesis sedan hasn't driven one. I'd take it over a 3 or 5 any day (excluding Ms).

    IMO the only really cool feature that hasn't been out since the 70s is rain sensing wipers. I do like that on the current Cadillacs.

    I think it is like art, you know Luxury when you see it. And thank you to the poster who mentioned "executive sedan", which is what most yuppies and dinks drive.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    ^^^ While value of enjoyment may not have a price tag, the cost of ownership does! You made a wise decision opting for the CTS-V verses an old Rolls-Royce. All the things that go into a Rolls-Royce certainly have their value in the pleasure that they give the owner and some would say they are worth the price!

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    I think many of you have mentioned the physical attributes of a luxury car, but I have one more that I would like to add. My dealer says that they treat you like a Cadillac owner. That is real luxury. My car is picked up for service and returned to me looking beautiful with service completed. Their personnel are just outstanding. Now for a second car to run all of my stop and start errands, I have an Chevrolet Equinox. It is a very nice car and the dealership is very good. However, the car does not ride or have the feel of our Cadillac. The dealer is very nice and gives me good service, but it is not Cadillac service. I believe luxury begins with the dealer. We live in the San Antonio, TX area and my dealer is Cavender Cadillac. Even though we have a 2010 DTS, we are treated as if we have the most expensive car that Cadillac makes. Can't beat that "luxury" feeling.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    No doubt about it "service" from the dealership contributes greatly to one's satisfaction and valuation of a car.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Indeed. No matter how bland Lexuses tend to be (to me), they treat their customers like five-star guests.

    Cadillac has a VERY long way to go in that regard.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Yes, Lexus came a long way in providing the service they claimed to provide. Maybe there is hope for Cadillac, but the company's history as the mavens of better mediocrity doesn't bode well!

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    "better mediocrity" haha, I like that.

    Yup, Cadillac is a long way from what they should be. Whatever happened to "Standard of the World"?

    I am tired of seeing overly complicated Cadillac Economy/ Go-fast cars, and the new Escalade looks like Cadillac went to Autozone, bought some fake louvers and L.E.D. Rope Lights and called it a day.

    Shame!! I mean really, this needs to stop, for them to go from building cars of equal or better quality than Rolls Royce to building Mercedes/ Nissan imitations. It just boggles my mind.

    My advice to them would be to listen to Leyland's words, "It is easy to get cooperation for mediocre work, but one must sweat blood for a chance to produce a superior product,"

    "If his work be merely mediocre, he will be left severely alone--if he achieves a masterpiece, it will set a million tongues a-wagging."

    And lastly, "That which is good or great makes itself known, no matter how loud the clamor of denial That which deserves to live--lives."

    This means Cadillac should dump this horrible sports/luxury, rebadged Chevrolet Tahoe business, and actually do what that are supposed to do; which is build the best true luxury automobiles in the world!

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    The Escalade is a pseudo Cadillac for the "pickup" set!

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    The question, Lacville, is whether they can make money building the "the best luxury cars in the world." truth be told, probably not. The Germans, the French, the Japanese, and maybe the Koreans, know what top of the heap is ....some in the Cadillac realm may know but are over ruled. So we will never see a Cadillac worthy of the title "Standard of the World" again! Sad but probably true.

    It is unlikely that a n American producer of "executive" cars will feel the need for the prestige of a first class product.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    The new escalade is supposed to be "significantly differentiated" from the tahoe/yukon/suburban ... at least on the interior ... you know the exterior will be different

    also there will be no EXT in the next body style esky
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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Quote Originally Posted by RippyPartsDept View Post
    The new escalade is supposed to be "significantly differentiated" from the tahoe/yukon/suburban ... at least on the interior ... you know the exterior will be different

    also there will be no EXT in the next body style esky
    If the Corvette's interior is any indicator of GM's capabilities, maybe it will be.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Quote Originally Posted by jesda View Post
    indeed. No matter how bland lexuses tend to be (to me), they treat their customers like five-star guests.

    Cadillac has a very long way to go in that regard.
    bingo

    Even though it is nicer and easier than my past Chevy, Pontiac experiences it is still a major failure

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    Luxury is in the eye of the beholder. Far as I'm concerned there's no one meaning or phrase which will define "luxury" far as the modern day automobile goes. Sure you've got terms like heritage which Mercedes definitely has. But so does ford. But does that make ford more of a luxury car than say a Lexus which has only been around since the late 80's?

    It's just one of those debates to which you'll not come upon a definite conclusion. Maybe you'll here a description that settles the debate in your eyes, but again; luxury lies within the eye of the beholder.

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