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    True luxury is me p00ping on a feather-laden toilet. THAT is true luxury.

    Don't push your idea of "true" luxury on the rest of us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    True luxury is me p00ping on a feather-laden toilet. THAT is true luxury.

    Don't push your idea of "true" luxury on the rest of us...
    Thats makes for an itchy ass, if thats your thing scratch away. Jusy dont do so while driving lol

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post

    Don't push your idea of "true" luxury on the rest of us...

    I have seen a question asked, and about 11 different people post their various differing responses.
    Do we need to change the thread title to....
    "What makes a "luxury" car today!Unless your opinion differs from Jim's!"?
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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Nobody is trying to "push" you to accepting a definition of "luxury." But the definition of "luxury" that you sighted with your Lincoln Town Car doesn't really hold water either. I.E. many of today's long haul truckers are surrounded with all kinds of gadgets and accoutrement that make life behind the wheel safer and more comfortable, however, few would consider their environment "luxurious." I still maintain that in our society "true luxury" has more to do with exclusivity, meaning today, that high monetary cost is the main measure of the quality of "luxury" in a product (particularly a car) than factors of technology, build quality and materials (although both main be a factor in price). Low production and high price are the main factors in the perception of true "luxury" .... when that does not suffice to enforce "exclusivity" then selectivity on the part of the seller is brought into play as with the Continental Mark II automobiles in the 1950's which were originally only sold to select high achievers in society, or Grosser Mercedes of the sixties with certain models reserved for "new" sale to heads of state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post
    Nobody is trying to "push" you to accepting a definition of "luxury." But the definition of "luxury" that you sighted with your Lincoln Town Car doesn't really hold water either. I.E. many of today's long haul truckers are surrounded with all kinds of gadgets and accoutrement that make life behind the wheel safer and more comfortable, however, few would consider their environment "luxurious." I still maintain that in our society "true luxury" has more to do with exclusivity, meaning today, that high monetary cost is the main measure of the quality of "luxury" in a product (particularly a car) than factors of technology, build quality and materials (although both main be a factor in price). Low production and high price are the main factors in the perception of true "luxury" .... when that does not suffice to enforce "exclusivity" then selectivity on the part of the seller is brought into play as with the Continental Mark II automobiles in the 1950's which were originally only sold to select high achievers in society, or Grosser Mercedes of the sixties with certain models reserved for "new" sale to heads of state.
    Well, all my Town Car has is space and softness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by talismandave View Post

    I have seen a question asked, and about 11 different people post their various differing responses.
    Do we need to change the thread title to....
    "What makes a "luxury" car today!Unless your opinion differs from Jim's!"?
    It's fine to state an opinion. I said luxury "to me"...

    Someone then comes on here and states luxury IS weight and wheelbase and blah blah blah...

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    My thoughts of a "luxury" car is, Full Size vehicles. Anything smaller, or sport packaged suspension, seats, etc. would be considered Sport Luxury. The Hyundai Genesis Sedan 5.0 is considered a luxury vehicle. Not because of the price tag, but it's a full size vehicle.
    In other words, anything that can fit 5(5'8"-6') people comfortably, is considered "Luxury" in my book

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    Quote Originally Posted by is3_ftw View Post
    My thoughts of a "luxury" car is, Full Size vehicles. Anything smaller, or sport packaged suspension, seats, etc. would be considered Sport Luxury. The Hyundai Genesis Sedan 5.0 is considered a luxury vehicle. Not because of the price tag, but it's a full size vehicle.
    In other words, anything that can fit 5(5'8"-6') people comfortably, is considered "Luxury" in my book


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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    ^^^ The Hyundai Genesis (and the Equus) and many other mid price range cars are considered "luxury" cars because their advertising firms have labeled them such, not because they really qualify as such.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post
    If exclusivity is the deciding factor in what constitutes a true "luxury" product then nothing you can do to a C class or a # series or a CTS, or even any of these cars more exalted and more expensive brethren. I agree with Sub that today real "luxury" class automobiles start north of $150,000. This was born out a few years ago when even Mercedes had to reinvent the old subsidiary to have a product in the true "Luxury" class.

    Let's face it most salaried members of the top 5% of American wage earners can, it doesn't take capital wealth and the income (and tax benefits) from same, to afford an S class or even a Bentley these days, maybe a few sacrifices (for the Bentley) to lease a $100,000. (or more) car. An hour standing on a corner of Rodeo and Wilshire in Beverly Hills will confirm this assertion.

    So if Cadillac wants to have something more than "executive" transportation in their lineup they had better be having plans to produce the Ciel or the Sixteen!
    I agree that a "true" luxury car starts north of $150k. But no luxury brand can survive just by selling $150k cars! They need to build and sell more affordable luxury cars to upper middle class that like to drive luxury cars, but can't afford to pay 150k for a car. This is some sort of win-win situation for both parties. C class MB, 3 and 5 series BMW, A4 Audi, and CTS have been bread and butter for car companies. I would call such cars, semi-luxury cars!

    And by the way, all of those true luxury cars that are named in this thread, have been acquired by VW, BMW, or other major brands, and those luxury brands couldn't survive without the help of major car manufactures. Basically, # series BMW or Audi A4 and VW Passat pay the bills of Bentley or Rolls-Royce.
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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    I was meaning a sedan. Also, full size cars are not considered 5dr wagons, SUV, or a 4dr truck.
    If its considered a $150k car is based on Bentley, Maserati, or Rolls Royce is stamped as luxury. Then no car below them shouldn't be viewed as luxury, but more of an affordable coach luxury.

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    In Europe and other parts of the world, the words "executive class" are used to describe cars affordable and enjoyed by the upper middle class. This term more appropriately to describe the socio-economics of these cars. Today many earning top 1% salaries do not find themselves able to easily afford a true "luxury" car.
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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    A few things cross my mind:
    Smooth ride that is never unsettled
    Quit comfortable interior
    Powerful dependable drivetrain
    timeless styling
    Above average build quality

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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    Quote Originally Posted by amunderdog View Post
    A few things cross my mind:
    Smooth ride that is never unsettled
    Quit comfortable interior
    Powerful dependable drivetrain
    timeless styling
    Above average build quality
    Given those exact parameters, and my experiences so far, I know of a DeVille that is a luxury automobile!!

    IN MY OPINION, luxury is a car that has a number of things most homes wouldn't, while still being mobile. Super nice appointments, exotic build materials, all the latest whiz-bang gizmos, etc.
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    Re: What makes a "luxury" car today?

    One thing we haven't mentioned as a characteristic of a true "luxury" automobile is the unequaled depreciation as soon as it is driven out the door of the agency. While mere "executive cars depreciate about 30% when they are driven out the door, a true "luxury" car will immediately depreciate 50% and then, and that little if one can even find a buyer. As many of us here at the Forums know the used "executive car is one of the great spreaders of wealth in American allowing the frugal to enjoy all the pleasures of owning an expensive car at a fraction of the price it would cost new. About the only give up is a bit of warranty, easily offset by savings in cost and that special pleasure of driving a "new" car!
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    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post
    ^^^ The Hyundai Genesis (and the Equus) and many other mid price range cars are considered "luxury" cars because their advertising firms have labeled them such, not because they really qualify as such.
    Umm, the Equus IS...

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