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    Question on car terminology

    All of a sudden I keep hearing the term "standard" used to describe a "manual transmission." I don't ever remember haring the term standard used in this context before. Maybe I am just too parochial, being a bi-coastal, but I have heard "four on the floor," "stick shift" and "manual" used to describe a non automatic transmission but never "standard" used for this purpose.

    I am not saying that this term is wrong, but since it seems that the very vast majority of cars sold in the U.S. are equipped with n automatic transmission that the term "standard" is a miss use of the term. I know there are a few members here that actually remember when most cars had manual transmissions, but they are certainly in the minority here on the Forums.

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    I remember it. It's a holdover from waaaaay back when an automatic was an option.
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    Yep ........ Even when I ordered my '65 Chevelle Malibu SS the salesman (Bill Griffin, R.I.P.) asked me "Do you want a standard or automatic ?" Chevy Chase Chevrolet, February 1965.
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    Hey, Sub, I know it doesn't seem that long ago, but 1965 was a long time ago! Most of the guys here n the Forum were even a twinkle in their mother's eye back in the sixties. But even then the term was out dated.

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    Standard was "three on the tree". A stick shift was "four in the floor with a fifth under the seat".
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    Yeah, Koz, I remember "three on the tree," in fact I learned to drive in a 1953 Ford Customline 2 door sedan. Bet you remember when three on three floor was all you could get!

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    My first car was a 1951 Morris Minor drophead coupe. 37 hp of rompin'stompin' flathead four power ! Went from that to a '49 Ford flathead.

    I'll bet even you remember a 2-speed Powerglide auto........... in a Chevy with vacuum-operated windshield wipers that stopped every time you stepped on the gas.
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    Re: Question on car terminology

    5th under the seat?

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    To much over thinking it for me

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    Or the starter pedal in the floor on the 50's trucks. The tube type radio that took about a minute for the tubes to warm up and radio to come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacLuke24
    5th under the seat?
    Seat adjustment lever?

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    Yeah, Sub, I do remember the Power Glide two speed, But I don't think I ever drove one. The early fifties Chevys I drove all had "three on the tree!"

    The first automatic trans car my family had was the 1956 Cadillac Fleetwood. Everything before that car was stick and everything after it was automatic. Of the cars I have owned, the '58 Jag XK 150 was a four speed Moss box as was '64 E-Type coupe, the Lamborghini 350GT, and '84 VW Scirocco had all synchro 5 speeds. Every thing else was automatic including my '65 Nissan Cedric 2800 Speciale! I still enjoy a good manual transmission, the ones available in the light cars of today are so easy an a lot of fun.

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post

    '84 vw scirocco
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    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacLuke24 View Post
    5th under the seat?
    Binky's brother is referring to the "fifth" of anti-freeze he used to carry ( many other North Poleians as well). Preferred brands were Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, etc., etc. When Koz was already in his dotage a fifth gear became available on many manual transmission cars, but that fact had nothing to do with the "fifth" under the seat.

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    Re: Question on car terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post
    Yeah, Sub, I do remember the Power Glide two speed, But I don't think I ever drove one. The early fifties Chevys I drove all had "three on the tree!"

    The first automatic trans car my family had was the 1956 Cadillac Fleetwood. Everything before that car was stick and everything after it was automatic. Of the cars I have owned, the '58 Jag XK 150 was a four speed Moss box as was '64 E-Type coupe, the Lamborghini 350GT, and '84 VW Scirocco had all synchro 5 speeds. Every thing else was automatic including my '65 Nissan Cedric 2800 Speciale! I still enjoy a good manual transmission, the ones available in the light cars of today are so easy an a lot of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Submariner409 View Post
    My first car was a 1951 Morris Minor drophead coupe. 37 hp of rompin'stompin' flathead four power ! Went from that to a '49 Ford flathead.

    I'll bet even you remember a 2-speed Powerglide auto........... in a Chevy with vacuum-operated windshield wipers that stopped every time you stepped on the gas.
    If the windshield wipers stopped when you stepped on the gas the vacuum side of the dual diaphragm AC fuel pump was bad.
    Don't mess with Binky Bear!


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